Thu 21 May 2009
If you or your parents were born in a foreign country, chances are you have to deal with ethnic stereotyping on a daily basis just like me. And just like me, you probably have the why-I-came-to-this-country-story on the ready – both the long and the short version – in case someone decides to ask.
I have an accent, so avoiding invasive questions about my Russian past is nearly impossible. To make things easier, I introduce myself as Xena or Xenia (not Ksenia, which is what I used to be called 11 years ago). I anticipate the “which part?” question and am almost not annoyed by it. How are they supposed to know that there is only one part in Russia – Russia, and someone from Ukraine or Belarus would never say they are from Russia? I am quick to explain that I’m from neither Moscow nor St. Petersburg (the only Russian cities most seem to know) and am in fact from a a little-known city in the Ural region. I am absolutely shocked when someone says they know Izhevsk.
Russian women get stereotyped a lot – beautiful, domesticated but strong, coy but ambitious, excellent cooks and mothers. There are also not-to-flattering stereotypes – “Russian slut”, “Russian gold digger”. Sometimes, usually riding on the train, I wonder what sort of assumptions people make about me just based on the fact that I’m Russian. I’ve been approached with flyers from seedy ‘photographers’ on several occasions. I’ve been hit on by guys who for some reason think that complementing me on my eyes will immediately get them in my pants, or at the very least my cell phone number. I try not to take offense, but it does get you thinking: Do I really look that easy? Or is it just my Russian face and the fact that I’m riding the Brighton Beach-bound train?

Photo: Johansen Laurel
When I stumbled upon I Am Not A Russian Mail Order Bride, I couldn’t believe how astonishingly accurate it was. Written by a Russian immigrant and fellow New Yorker, it felt like my own life story with a few names changed. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
I Am Not A Russian Mail Order Bride
By Helena Khazanova
One would think I know all about Russian girls in New York because that is exactly what I am: a Russian girl living in this monster of a metropolis. People often ask where I am from. “Moscow,” I reply with certainty and without hesitation, despite fifteen years spent abroad. The look of surprise always registers in their face. “No accent, I know,” I feel compelled to finish the thought for them in order to avoid another obvious comment, a conversation that I can predict word for word. But it follows anyway, and the next question is why.
“Why are you here?” they ask, almost surprised, as if I am the only person not born on this island. They look on, eager to hear another heartbreaking story about bleak, cold weather, everlasting snows, and bread shortage, garnished with an intricate and hopefully slightly illegal crossing of the Atlantic. Black and white images of Ellis Island flash in their minds, and faces of harassed dirty immigrants contrasted by their own childhood that is suddenly basked in a warm glow reminiscent of a Norman Rockwell painting.
“Sorry,” I let them down. My story is not thickly wrapped in darkness and despair. Instead, it is disappointingly ordinary. “Well, my parents moved here because my father worked for an American company,” I begin my speech that I have told enough times that I no longer need to concentrate on what I am saying. “They live in the city and Southampton,” I continue. “I went to school in Rhode Island. No siblings,” I add for some reason. So far nothing too scandalous.
“So, your parents are here?” they ask, shocked at another proof that I am not, in fact, a prostitute in disguise. “Yes,” I say. Somehow they feel cheated out of their small victory.
It’s not offensive really. I guess I am just used to it. But no matter where I come from, today, in New York, I am only an observer. I watch in awe as this new breed of Russian girls dash wildly around Manhattan in four-inch stilettos as if they are still at a local collective farm, rounding up all eligible men like a herd of cattle. Yes, sometimes the ill-fated reputation is well-deserved. Permanent fixtures at every chic and expensive restaurant their faces look somewhat devoid of expression and can be compared to say, a genetically engineered peach. Good to look at, perfectly colored, firm and completely inedible. They sit on their well-chosen dates with silence hanging heavily off their forks and vacant smiles on their plump and glossed lips. But although they look blank, their minds are crunching numbers faster than any investment banker.
Unfortunately, to many in New York it seems highly unlikely and very suspicious that a girl from Russia could be just that: a person from a place with no baggage attached. Stereotypes run rampant; a model from a small town who was selling vegetables in the snow-covered market to survive; some beauty whose main goal is to marry a billionaire but who is still having trouble reading; a designer-clad girlfriend of a shady businessman with wads of cash stuffed in her purse.
Somehow lately the image of the Russian “girl” has undergone a very significant and swift transformation. First it was associated only with something Americans strangely like to refer to as babushka (which, in fact, does not mean a scarf or any other headpiece but a grandmother). This babushka is usually represented in their mind as a poor girl swathed in rags, slightly hungry and pale, looking wistfully at the brightly lit store window, too embarrassed to go in.
Then came the age of the mail-order bride: a girl who does not possess any command of the English language but is nice-looking, timid and compliant. This was an image that made a proud husband think himself a knight on a white horse and not some loser from the Midwest in a white Subaru.
But with the iron curtain swinging wildly in the wind of political change during the early nineties, the seemingly largest resource of the former Soviet Union spilled out into the world: women. They are literally everywhere. Mainly stationed in leading epicenters such as New York and London, they traverse the globe to the best beaches, ski slopes or just anywhere that starts with a “St”. They are beautiful, tall, ready and willing but behind the sugary facade they are tough and uncompromising.
They come from different corners of the enormous country empowered just by their ability to get out, something that was forbidden to their families for generations. Behind them is a dirty country road, remains of an old factory sticking out against the big sky as a skeleton of some prehistoric beast, bleached white concrete with weeds growing timidly in between the cracks and long forgotten objects that suggest an everlasting, destructive human presence: vodka bottles, condoms, candy wrappers. In these places, being beautiful does not really matter and does not have the capacity to change your life.
Russian girls want what everybody wants; a good life and they want it badly. I guess they just don’t go to the trouble of hiding it. True, there is a lack nuance in their approach as they are offensively shameless about it. A style quite opposite from their American counterparts who want it just as much, but pretend they do not by modestly feigning indifference (which, in their minds translates to good breeding) and then turn into domestic monsters the second they have a ring on their finger. Yet, a lingering and unwavering impression remains; complete and utter obsession with money.
Saying one is Russian in New York gives off a subtle whiff of negativity and indignity. However, isn’t it giving Russian girls too much credit in the originality contest? As if no one else ever wanted a diamond or two, as if obsession with money, especially someone else’s, has not been plaguing people since the beginning of time.
New York is a city that indeed does not get much sleep. Here our tastes are erratic and there is clearly an obsession with ‘the new’. Spoiled and neurotic, we are in constant search for the next best thing. And guess what? Russian girls are ‘in’. Modeling agencies are practically bursting with various Natashas, who are rapidly succeeding Brazilian bombshells and sprinting towards the finish line of lukewarm celebrity. Not too many men would object to having one on their arm either. But for some reason, insinuating that a Russian girl, no matter how pleasant or gracious, is most likely a whore in disguise has become “a thing to do”, almost like bashing France.
But like it or not, even when this trend is gone the Russian girls are here to stay. And in the city that is a graveyard of failed dreams they will most likely be successful in finding what they are looking for – be it money for some or a white picket fence for others.
At the end of the day, girls are pretty much the same. They could be from Minsk or Minnesota and want the same thing just wrapped in different packaging. And who is to say what the American Dream really is if not to get your own Prince Charming with all the right trimmings?
Deerlings: what ethnicity do you consider yourself to be? Is there a stereotype associated with it?
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May 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Thats an interesting article. I had no idea there were such stereotypes of russians, but then Minnesota is heavily populated with norwegian, scandanavian and yes, russian, so I guess it takes on a different twist here. We also have a significant population of Native American, and I would say they face the brunt of the “ethnic stereotyping”. We just have a different scapegoat.
My family has lots of irish blood running through it. I’m a genetic throwback, with the pale, pale skin, red hair and hazel green eyes. And I have typically noticed that people expect me to be poor, or uneducated. Everyone is so shocked when I explain to them the roles in the community my family is involved in. We definitely aren’t exceedingly wealthy, but we do have political, financial, and social backgrounds that act as a portfolio of our ambition. Even more directly offensive to me is the general shock everyone feels when I explain I am accepted to Carlson School of Management (acceptance rate of 11%, or less, I believe) and that I have a 3.98 GPA overall.
I get a lot of expectant invitations to “come out and drink” and “show them how its done” from people who have confirmation that I am in fact Irish. More tied to my haircolor, I get a lot of advances from people who think that because I’m a redhead, therefore I must be a crazy-awesome lay. Usually the sexual advances follow neatly on the heels of the calls to drink, go figure.
I guess every culture has to deal with its stigmas, you know? Best we can do is overcome them and prove them wrong.
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May 21st, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I’m chilean (and I live in Chile), so I guess everybody outside Southamerica would call me a latina. I lived for sometime in the USA and got almost all the comments/questions I was expecting: “you don’t look latin, I thought you would be shorter and darker” (I’m relatively normal in height, white skin), or “Do you have movie theaters in your country??” (GOD YES?? WTF??), “had you tried chinese/MacDonalds food before?” (uhm…), etc.
I dislike the typical latina stereotype. People expect a tan, curvy girl, who knows how to dance salsa, great cook, fiery in bed, living in a dirty, chaotic country filled with banana fields, maybe uneducated…everything you want. I think the only stereotype I fill is that I know how to dance merengue, and the fact that where I live is a custom to kiss people in the chic to say hi (which was scary/exciting for the people I met there). But we DO NOT have carnivals everyday (we don’t have any in my city, in fact), Chile’s climate is mediterranean so we’re not hanging in our bikinis all day or streets are filled with banana palms, and my city (Santiago) is way more developed than most middle cities in the USA, and is a pretty nice, safe place to live. Yes, my home is made out of cement, I have a real pool on the yard, a nice cocker dog and a 2005 car; I’m studying laws in the best university around, and I have a laptop and Wifi in home.
Oh well. The only thing I can say is that I understand why stereotypes exist; my country is so “far away” that is easy to assume that I look/act like a Dominican girl, and that my country is extremely poor. Same goes with countries so far away from mine..I tend to do the same. Because of my bad experiences with people stereotyping me, I have an open-mind when knowing foreigners! :)
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May 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pm
100% Filipina. First generation American born. And for the love of everything, I am not a ‘me love you long time’ girl. Proudly bicultural (and probably more Americanized than my parents want me to be– Coconut? Brown on the outside, white on the inside), and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I am acutely aware that after WWII, there has been a stigma of the Little Brown Brothers and Sisters who are so subservient to the will of ‘normal’ Americans. And I am not like that. I am proudly American, and proudly Filipina as well. I am headstrong, I have my own wants, needs, and likes. And I am also not the ghetto-fied Filipino (not to say they’re all like that… but there is a sizeable group in my area of NY).
I am Asian (not Chinese, not Japanese) or Pacific Islander. I did well in school, and I am good with analytical thinking (as well as creative). I do have glasses, I did learn piano at a very young age, I am not very athletic. But I do not let my ethnicity or my heritage dictate the person I am.
Other people can categorize me if they wish, and I don’t apologize for shattering their preconcieved notions. In fact, I welcome it.
Okie… enough rambling from me… ;)
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May 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I found your “there is only one part of Russia” funny because a situation like that sort of happened to me. Basically it goes to show how geography in school is so different in other countries. I spent 5 weeks in Scotland when I was 17 (summer between high school & college) and when people would ask me where I was from I said Boston (people would have no idea where my smaller town was but it was close enough to Boston to say Boston). I would get asked oh, is that near Disney World or near Hollywood? Ummm no! I couldn’t understand why they had no idea where places were in the USA until my Scotish friend (she was an excahnge student in my high school and I spent the summer with her) explained to me that in school in Scotland the USA is not broken down into individual states so often time people have no idea what city is near what.
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May 21st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
fantastic read!
Well, I am first and formost a Canadian, which of course has it’s steriotypes. When I went down south, I recieved good comments and bad comments…stuff like “We [the USA] could learn a lot from you,” to “You guys [Canadians] are a bunch of pussies and we should invade you” blah blah blah.
Secondly, I identify myself with my roots…Irish and Ukrainian. It may seem like a strange combo, but it’s actually quite common here in Canada. The only steriotype I face with these two ethnicities is “so you must really like your alcohol,” “you must be cheap,” and “I’ll bet you have a really bad temper.”
Of course, people who say these things are ignorent, and need to get out more!
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May 21st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I often read your blog, but I’ve never commented – but I really felt the need to n this post!
I’m Russian (well half Russian, really, my mother is but my father’s not) and for the first few years of my life we lived in Vladivostok, until we moved to Chicago to live with my mother’s family.
I feel as though I have to defend my mother, not myself, because as soon as people find out that she’s Russian and moved to America after getting married they automatically assume that she was a mail order bride (which she wasn’t).
Also, though, I tell people that I’m Russian, and as I no longer have an accent (after living for most of my formative years in Chicago), they always say “Well, you don’t seem very Russian.”
This always upsets me a little, for what makes me Russian or not? I don’t know, really, but that’s not for them to decide, I think.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:03 pm
What an incredibly eloquent essay. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
I view myself first as a Canadian.
Then I identify with my family roots of Dutch and German. When I went to Europe last summer, I felt more at home in Holland and Germany then I did in the other countries I visited.
Both sets of my grandparents immigrated to Canada after the Second World War, and both my father and mother were born in Canada (my mothers siblings were born in Holland though).
There arn’t to many stereotypes that I have to deal with, which is nice. But since I am blonde and have blue eyes, there are the aryan comments made, specially when they learn that I am of German decent.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Oh, just something to add, a stereotype I assign to people I know who immigrated to Canada…
I have 4 guy friends who are either immigrants to Canada themselves, or their parents immigrated before they were born. But all 4 of them will clear their dinner plate, and then clear yours and any other plate that still has food on it. And by clear, I mean consume all of the food and wipe up the left over sauce with a piece of bread.
Maybe its because they are immigrants or maybe its because they are boys. But now its stuck in my mind that immigrant boys will clear any plate set before them.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I’m Puerto Rican. I still live in my Island, but I used to work at Borders and would normally have American clients vacationing here. All of them always commented that to be Puerto Rican I spoke English very well. I never got around figuring out if I should be offended or feel good about this.
I visited New York a few years ago, whenever I walked into a store the question of where I am from would pop up. When I said I was from Puerto Rico they would get excited because they had visited the Island,but of course, they only visited Old San Juan which is the touristic area where cruise ships arrive. Also, I think that maybe I got asked where I was from a lot because even though I’m olive-skinned, I look like I could be from a few different nationalities.
Who do they have to box everybody into categories? Who cares where I’m from? or if I speak English well or not?
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Well, I’m italian.
This pretty much says everything.
I’m born in Switzerland and I still live here in Geneva ( the city I hate the most, the country I hate the most )… but I’m italian in everything, patriotic etc. Next year I’ll be living there, back to the roots.
Basically you’re either ‘mafioso’ or ’sly’ or not serious or… well, even worst.
Pizza-pasta-mafia. And that’s it.
The tragedy is that Italy is perhaps worst than every clichés… but there is so many potential in that country, even if it has been in decadence since well… Renaissance.
I could speak hours about it…. I totally know how you’re feeling.
Sometimes it’s just devastating… you simply want to cry, or to punch the person. Because they never get it. That you’re YOU, and of course you come from a place and you have its culture, background and everything but you’re not a stereotype. You’re YOU and that’s it.
How sad.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
That’s a really good, thought provoking read, thank you.
I often find it really hard when I meet people who are immigrants or have ancestry that is so different from my own because I am interested in learning about them and want to know more, but I don’t want to come across as rude or ignorant. I understand though while it may be the first time I’ve met them, they’ve probably had the same questions over and over and are bored sick!
I myself am English through and through, and fulfil every sterotype possible (except the one about bad teeth, I have very nice teeth!) complete with the stiff upper lip, posh accent, and gallon or so of tea a day!
I think the thing that annoys me most is probably when people use British as a synonym for English. It isn’t the same thing!
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I’m a mutt. For lack of a better term. A Russian grandfather married an Irish grandmother on one side.. and a Native American (Cherokee and Aztec) grandfather married a Spanish grandmother on the other.
I pass for Caucasian, but tend to be offended when I am called Caucasian.. since it tends to .. I don’t know.. write off? half of me.
My last name is Russian, obviously and also ALWAYS mispronounced. So it’s hard to get anyone to take the other half of me seriously because they don’t seem to grasp the whole ability to have your father’s last name with your mother’s heritage. heh.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I’m German and Irish which means I must be a nazi and a hard drinker. I am neither of these things. I was raised in a very liberal house that taught me never to judge others on where their family is from. Even though after the war my Grandfather couldn’t get a real job just because he was German.
I do have an Irish temper how ever but I am not red haired nor do I dance very well. I also can’t drink for the life of me. Haha. I am lucky to know both sides of my family history, while my fiancee isn’t even sure where his family name comes from. Both his grandmother and his dad were adopted. He’s searching for any answers he can find. :D
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I’ve always gotten a kick out of it whenever someone asks me where I’m from. No one can ever figure it out and I love asking people to try and guess. I’m pretty much a mutt, Los Angeles born and raised. My mother was born in America and is Dutch, German, Irish, and British. My dad was born in Baghdad but like most Jews in the early 50’s/late 40′, renounced their citizenship and moved to Israel because it was too dangerous to stay. When he was 8, he and his family moved from Israel to New York. Eventually from there they all moved to LA.
I get some pretty interesting guesses as far as my heritage. Most commonly people guess Italian, Armenian, or Persian. When people guess persian and I explain to them that my dad is from Iraq, people usually say “isn’t that the same thing?” People don’t seem to understand that Iraq and Iran are different countries. I think the favorite thing someone has guessed was half Irish and half Mexican. Otherwise people just go with “Jewish.” That’s the steriotype that bugs the hell out of me. Yes, both my parents are Jewish, but I do not consider myself to be. It’s annoying as an atheist to be permanently linked to a religion because of my background.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I’m Polish so that makes me either an alcohol addict or a thief *snorts* and that also means I wear white socks with sandals, can’t speak proper English and God only knows what else as I tend not to pay attention to stereotypes. I know people think Polish women should be poorly educated and be good, quiet wives. I only tend to sport the good sides of beign Polish – that means generous and hospitable.
My family is pretty mixed up – as deep as I dug I found French, Lithuanian, Polish and Jewish roots. However, I always say I’m of Slavic herritage – but with bright red hair (call me carrot head!)and green eyes instead of the typical Slavic blonde and baby blue irises.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I’m Dutch and some how the rest of the world does not seem to understand that Dutch is not German and that there are more cities in The Netherlands than Amsterdam and Rotterdam (altough I forgive them that..I only know big cities of most countries in the world so thats ok). What annoys me most is that a lot of people seem to think Dutch people drink and smoke pot all day. Some people do, but not more than in other countries, but I DONT. Oww and because no one seems to know…Drugs are NOT legal here.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I’m a mut. I am half Portuguese (my grandmother is from the Azores), a quarter Irish and a quarter French Canadian. My dad is 100% Portuguese and is fluent in the language but he never taught it to myself or my siblings. And still to this day my siblings and I don’t know the language. Both my brother and I took German in school instead. I also don’t look Portuguese at all. I am very pale, light hair (not red), blue eyes. I take after my mom’s side (French & Irish). My brother took after my dad (dark hair & olive skin but he still got my mom’s blue eyes). I don’t run into issues with stereotyping at all. Maybe because I am a mut and don’t look like any one thing.
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
i am mexican … i guess that’s all i need to say.. my heritage is german and spanish.. so either i have the swine flu or i just eat tacos and burritos and have a “sombrero” on all the time.. which is obviously not true.. but i guess being a mexican girl you have to get used to deal with the comments.. but i always hear the same questions and comments when i get out of the country.. everybody spects you to be short, tan and curvy.. and obviously not everyone here is..
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:02 pm
ooh i hate stereotypes. so much. funny this is posted today. at school, i was talking with some classmates and we somehow got to the topic of race (where this particular girl isnt very sensitive) and she started talking a bunch of stereotypical bullshit, jokes, and even using the “n word.” i must have looked like i wanted to kill her, because she eventually shut up. i am very open minded and excepting, as well as believing in equality for all, and she knew it.
i personally am canadian (scottish heritage from waayy back when)and i am the stereotypical thin, tall, blond hair and blue eyes (which isnt an ethnicity :P) that every stupid girl “should” be. actually, i am top of my class and very weird :P im also from the suburbs in ontario where a ton of different ethnicities live. i moved to a very rural (and very “white”) community 3 years ago. i was actually born here, though. so, from that, i get the blunt ends of jokes, but i get used to it. most people are very respectful, or are only poking fun.
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
That was such an interesting read– in the town I was raised in, we had a huge Russian population, and I always heard those stereotypes spouted off by people around me.
I’ve never really experienced ethnic stereotyping, to tell the truth. People are rarely-if-ever able to pidgeonhole me into one ethnic role, as I’m a mix of about seven distinct ethnicities. What I’ve experienced is a little bit different: since I am a mixture of many races, people often say that I’m “not [insert culture here] enough.” For example, when I tried my hand at hip-hop dancing, I was branded not black enough– but I was too black for ballet, and all the girls in my Irish dancing class were fully Irish– I wasn’t pale enough to be one of them.
In a way, though, not being “enough” of any given culture to fully identify with it is liberating. Most girls are told by the media and their culture that they should be a certain way because of their ethnic backgrounds; I’ve never felt the pressure of having to act a certain way to either live up to or defy a stereotype.
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I’m from California. I don’t spend all day at the beach, I don’t have fake tits, I don’t bleach my hair (except for my skunk stripe), and I don’t drive a convertible. It’s not always just one’s ethnic background that gets pigeonholed.
english-irish-scottish-dutch-german, if anyone’s interested. I don’t really identify with any of them.
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I’m scandinavian. I hate that stereotype. I might be a Scandy, but Scandinavia covers Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland, so being scandinavian gets all the bad parts from four different countries. So apparantly I’m a drunk, sex-freaked, cheap blond chick who believes everything people say.
Funny thing is, I’m 5′2″, brown-haired, hazel-eyed and could easily skip a few years of school and still be ahead of the curve. That part usually throws people off the hook.
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I’m a dual-citizen of the US and Finland. I was born in the States, but my mother is Finnish. My father is an American of Polish and Scottish ancestry.
Since I have my father’s last name – Smith – no one ever suspects that half my family recently immigrated. I only get asked about my heritage when someone comments on my very pale skin, or overhears me speaking Finnish to my relatives.
When people know my background, they tend to think that I must love vodka, whiskey, and potatoes! To be honest, most people in the US know very little about Finland, only that we have saunas and reindeer, and some know that Helsinki is the capital. My family may have had a sauna or two, but we have never had reindeer, and we aren’t from Helsinki!
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
I think for every race there is some kind of stereotype. I am Puerto Rican, born and raise in Philadelphia, but i know my spanish and visit PR when i can. I guess what’s annoying is when people think everyone that speaks spanish is Mexican, LOL or when they ask ” Are u spanish?” I mean spanish is the language not the race or cutlure.
But i hate when people assume because i am Latina that i dropped out of high school or never went to college, I am very strong, educated and independent. I love beating the odds, oxoxo
Your a cute russian redhead smart women doedeere,LOL always be proud of who you are, as i know u are.HUGS
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I am 50% Ecuadorian and 50% Italian. My nationality confuses the hell out of people – people often think that I am Middle Eastern, South Asian, Eastern European, or fully Hispanic. Because of that, I have a lot of people come up to me and begin talking to me in whatever their native language is. And then, some of those people sort of sneer at me when I tell them that I don’t speak their language. =/ I feel awful about it. Apparently, my dad has this happen to him often, too.
The worst thing is when I am seen with my family. I’m olive-skinned, but quite pale, while the rest of my family is more tan then me (probably because I never go outside, haha!). I get a lot of comments about how pale I am, and it hurts because they say it so disdainfully. :(
Other than that, I don’t get much else. My parents were both born here and were raised with little of their own culture, so my siblings and I are very Americanized. They do make pasta pretty much every night for dinner, though. :P
Enough about me – thanks for posting this! This was a very interesting read. :)
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I’m Brazilian and I currently live in Chicago, and EVERYDAY I get asked whether i’m illegal, if I sell drugs, if Brazil is completely overtaken by slums and the rainforest and so much more. One random man actually had the nerve to ask if I was raised with monkeys and tigers. I’ve lived through stereotypes my entire life and it still manages to irk me like no tomorrow. It just shocks me of the amount of ignorance some people have towards other cultures, it wouldn’t hurt if they did some research before opening their mouth and making a statement that would offend rather than amuse the party being told. In many accounts, especially when i’m shopping, random people come up to me and speak Spanish (when Brazil’s native tongue is Portuguese) and if I respond in English, I get called rude and a show-off. I’ve also had a few people tell me to go back to Mexico (Yes, Mexico) because “we don’t need latino’s in the USA.”
People who have never experienced being hated by their race don’t realize how much it hurts having to live through this on a daily basis.
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I am also Canadian. However, my mom is a Serb (my baba was born in Czechoslovakia, however, and moved to Montenegro, where she met my grandfather). My father’s mom is Norwegian and his dad is Scottish. I identify most with my Serbian background though. Since my grandparents on my mom’s side don’t speak English well I took a Russian course in university this year (they don’t offer Serbian, and my grandma speaks Russian too) so I could talk to her better.
Anyways, theres a lot of Serbian sterotypes in my community, since most of the strip clubs and bars in town are owned by Serbs. People tell me I must like to drink and if I have a bad temper, etc. I can get the drinking one, my mom does a shot with my grandparents every morning, but anyone can be mean/have a bad temper…Thats not limited to an ethnicity/race/nationality/whatever.
Anyways, I loved your post! Very interesting.
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May 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
This story was so touching-as a half-Chinese Jewish girl, I often get strange looks and lots of questions when I tell someone my ethnicity. I have been asked if I am Mexican, South American, Middle Eastern, and so on.
My high school is very very competitive, and because I am Asian many people assume that I am very smart. I take advanced classes, but if I do poorly on a test or assignment, some people and even my friends make fun of me; they think I should do better because I’m Chinese.
My father is Polish (50%) Russian and Italian, my mother is Chinese; people assume she is one of those “scary Chinese ladies” who does curses on people and smokes opium, but my mom is the coolest person I know! People are often surprised when they find out she designs handbags and jewelry and that she has an AMAZING sense of style-she designed and made my Bat Mitzvah dress!
I’m very short and what some people call “exotic” looking so a lot of boys in my school think I’m a pushover or am a really easy slut(apparently a lot of guys in my school like kinky Eastern looking girls, who knows where that came from? I suppose that’s a stereotype as well, though…) However upon meeting me, guys discover I am completely assertive and COMPLETELY picky about who I date and hook up with! (For the record, so far no one haha)
Stereotypes are gonna happen, people will think whatever they want to, after all. I think all we can do is try to be more conscious of the different nationalities and personalities around us :) Thank you.
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May 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
I describe myself as coming from “Eastern European Jewstock” (mostly Lithuanian and Ukrainian, if you want specifics). I was raised in an area with a large Jewish population, so I didn’t really encounter much stereotyping growing up. However, when I went to college in Chicago I was the first Jew a lot of the students from smaller towns had ever met, and they had a lot of questions.
There’s also a stereotype that Jews aren’t athletic, even within the Jewish community. As the late, great comedian Buddy Hackett once joked, “Jews don’t ski. Jews play pinochle and say, ‘Helen, bring fruit.’” However, I play roller derby, which is a very intense sport. I attend 2-hour practices 3-4 times a week. When my mom mentioned it to one of her coworkers he replied, “what’s a nice Jewish girl doing playing roller derby?”
I also lived in a tiny town in Japan for two years. As the only foreigner, it was part of my job to promote cultural exchange. The most stereotypical questions usually came from the women who I ate lunch with at work. Thanks to Hollywood, they thought that everyone in America owned a gun, and it blew their minds that I had never even seen one.
Incidentally, a woman in a restaurant there once asked me if I was Russian because of my complexion!
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May 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Well, as an Irish girl still stationed in Ireland, but with American relatives, I like to have a little laugh at all the stereotypes, and have a nicely polished arsenal of comebacks, some sarcastic, some sincere.
-You People Are All Drunken Idiots… DEBATE!
-”I can’t AFFORD the amount of brandy it takes to get me drunk, sweetie.”
-”Mostly, yes, but then WE sober up.”
-LEPRECHAUNS…GO!
-”They actually pronounce it (le-pree-shan) [the idea is to make it sound French or something believable]. And yes, they ARE a primitive race of stunted human, decended from the Picts. Lately they’ve formed a rather formidable Republican militia, and are stationed in the Southern Provences of Leinster and Munster. We fear they may overthrow the current government and lead or troops into the British-Ruled Provence of Ulster to try reclaim it. Very Worrying Indeed.”
Basically, give the narrow-minded punters enough rope to hang themselves with, and skip off giggling.
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May 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
my mom is korean, so i have slightly asain looking eyes. however, i’m also half irish, so i have pouffy hair that turns blonde in the summer. i remember when i was little, some boy came up to me and said, “hey, how come you don’t match?” that hurt me. a lot. i didn’t understand, since even though my mom wasn’t born in the u.s., i was, and we didn’t speak korean at home or celebrate korean holidays. not that i don’t love my heritage, but i think of myself as american-not irish/asain/american.
what bugs me is that when people see me, they don’t think “girl,” they think “asain girl.” so automatically, i’m a math geek, i speak chinese, and only i eat rice and sushi.
and sorry for the rant, but this type of thing really bothers me.
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May 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I think its funny that people even guess at peoples ethnicity. Iam a mutt. english ,irish.scottish native american, italian,mexican and spanish. Throw in that my name is “Amore” and i most often get asked if iam french. Nobody ever thinks iam hispanic is any way. Recessive genes are funny. I have pale skin,blondish hair and blueish eyes.
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
being Japanese (only half, but I mostly just look asian), I don’t get a lot of personality stereotypes, but people do joke that I’m smart (particularly in math), that I can’t drive, and that even just a little bit of alcohol turns my face bright red.
I get a few stereotypes on account of being a lesbian also, but since I am quite feminine, most of those are all in good fun, from people who know me.
overall, I haven’t found stereotyping to be much of a problem, but this is probably because I live in a massively liberal, accepting area.
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Canadian all the way, here, and I know there aren’t too many stereotypes about us, but I do have to face them now and then, especially with making friends over the internet with different people from different places. I lot of people actually think that I live somewhere that’s really cold all the time(um.. cold winters yes, but HOT summers here in MTL.) Or that all Canadians are “lumberjacks”, or weird things like that. Although, a lot of us do love hockey, especially here in Montreal. I don’t play it though, just like watching it.. Not just to support the teams.. but damn, hockey players are hot. :) lol Anyway.. ..Lalalalala!
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I’m British African and luckily haven’t suffered too much prejudice in the past. Actually it’s living in Spain that I’ve been really aware of being the minority – not through any explicit rudeness, just endless staring.
I remember being approached by an American guy a few months ago while waiting for the bus – he’d heard me talking to a friend and asked if I was English – yes – and where I was from in England – London. He was SHOCKED! “Oh my god, you have black people there??” O_o It’s one of the most multi-national cities in Europe
Doedeere would you be open to me sending in portraits wearing your make-up? I noticed somebody asked for looks on darker skin a while back – it’s a good point!
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
This is quite interesting. For me, the stereotype is Asian. I have no discerning features marking Asian descent [read: slanted eyes] so usually when I tell people I am part Chinese, they all deny it. “NO!”
That’s one thing that’s always bugged me. Just because I’m curvy and I’ve got large eyes/brown hair and freckles, I am automatically disqualified from the Asian race.
For the most part, I don’t think stereotypes matter much. I’ve even used them, only jokingly though. When I think it becomes a problem is when you assume that everyone fits into this one little niche, no matter what.
And funny story: my mom is more overtly Asia, and works in the casino business. One time, a well-meaning, but horribly insensitive rich woman said “You must have a much better life here!”
sigh…
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I am venezuelan. But because my dad is a tall, blonde, blue-eyed italian i look nothing like your typical latina…. but my mom does.
We recently moved to spain because we have the nationality, and several times we’ve been in the same situation involving legal paperwork or something of the sort, and they tend to be more “picky” with her… which she always solves showing that all her documents are in order before they even ask.
But one thing that bothers me is the Latin-american stereotype hollywood portrays: the Mexican (because aparently only mexico is part of latin america, and the other countries are god-forgotten places) ilegal inmigrants, with the thick accent…. and of course, for the girls, the sassy, bitchy, “getto diva” (see, for example, Betty’s sister, Hilda, in Ugly Betty), that dresses as loud as she can (and as slutty as she can too) and is “bubbly” to the point of annoyance.
And because I’m nothing of the sort, people actually can’t believe me when i tell them i’m from Venezuela.
Hell, once a former friend of mine moved to switzerland to study middle school, and they asked her if we moved trough the jungle, and they couldn’t believe we had technology (some of it more advanced than in europe).
But oh well, it’s something we have to live with. I sorta got used to it a long time ago.
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
I’m from NYC too and worked in a hospital community in Brooklyn that had a large population of Russians. I’ve vaguely heard of the stereotypes of Russian women (none really on the men), but I sorta just let it roll off my back. The way I see it: every ethnicty has a “stereotype” and for the most part, it’s not true when applied to individuals. If someone has a problem with you because of your ethnicity, they’re the ones who are losing out because of their ignorance.
I actually ended up becoming intrigued with Russian culture from my experience with patients and decided to take a semester of Russian. Now I can read and write…well slowly at least. :)
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
I live in New York but I have Irish (Irish and Northern Irish), German, and Danish roots.
Well, when I mention I’m proud of being part Irish people usually think “That means she likes to drink.”, Oh, and that Irish people usually have red hair and green eyes. I’ve never been to Ireland (Or out of the country, for that matter) but they really don’t have a huge amount of redheads.
When it comes to German, people usually think beer and lederhosen (lederhosen were only really worn in Bavaria!). Aaand when I mention that I’m proud of my German ancestry people think “Nazi?”. Also, whenever I tell someone that my half-German great-grandfather fought in WWII they automatically assume he was a Nazi. He was born in America. He fought on our side.
Ha, now the Danish. Whenever I mention that I’m proud to be part Danish people either mix it up with Dutch, or assume I’m calling myself a pastry. If I try to explain that Its the small Scandinavian country above Germany… let’s just say that for whatever reason… people don’t know where Scandinavia is (Or they thought it was one country.)
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I’m actually half mexican and half white (white part coming from the south, france, and germany). My parents were born in the US and 3 of my 4 grandparents were born here as well. My other grandpa was born in Mexico. I’m lucky and have not really noticed and bad discrimination or stereotypes because of my ethnicity. Although my close friends sometimes laugh at me cuz a bit of southern accent comes through once in a while…even though I’ve never been to the south. lol. I’m from Southern California by the way. And I’ve always been around a lot of fellow Mexicans which is great. However, I don’t speak much Spanish, so I feel kinda bad. I don’t think I look very mexican either. I’ve been mistaken for being Persian, Iranian, and just the other day one of my friends from school asked if I was Middle Eastern. I actually kinda like that you can’t tell what I am just by looking at me. And being called middle eastern is quite a compliment to me because I think middle eastern women are very beautiful. Basically I just love being who I am and I am proud of my heritage on both sides of my family.
I think people from different backgrounds then myself are fascinating and I love to learn about different cultures. I don’t want anybody stereotyping me so I try not to stereotype others. One World, One Love…=)
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Well, I was born in Czech Republic, same as my parents, and their parents, and their parents etc. etc. etc., but I feel totally alienated from this nation. But one cannot have “no nationality”, so I changed my to Vietnamese, to show some support for this minority.
Speaking about ethnicity, based on mitochondrial DNA analysis I’m mostly Slavonian with touch of Celtic.
Interesting read; that would match Ukrainian women here. Russian people are viewed as super-rich here. Just few days ago, in real estate agency, the broker collected some materials from his table and put them away with “too expensive, maybe for Russians” comment.
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pm
I am American. A mixture of German, Swedish, Norwegian, and other Nordic counties with a reputation for being blond and pale. I am often called a viking, “Helga”, or a Jew-killer.
But thats in America.
In Japan I am white, therefore I am American. And even though I adore Japan and everything in it, I cant help but be annoyed by the people I pass on the street who offer to direct me to the nearest “Mac-a-don-nal-dos”.
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May 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Xenia, cpocibo. This brought a tear to my eye, especially after our e-mail conversation. The week after, I had to attend an identity workshop, and when my turn came, everyone laughed at me when I told them I was a Russian from Ukraine. They asked me “Isn’t that the same thing?” “So are you Russian or Ukrainian?” and other questions of the sort. I had to sit down and explain to them the differences, and after they continued to stereotype me. I had to leave the room with tears of frustration because I could not understand why, after simple explanation, these people continued to address me with improper facts.
This week, I decided to get together a few of my female Russian friends in order to create something to break the stereotypes of the “Masha-Natasha-Sasha from Brighton Beach” and prove to Americans (and other groups as well) that we are REAL girls, not just those bleached blonde barbie dolls you see on Ocean Parkway. We have goals and ambitions too, not just dig into the wallets of rich American businessmen.
Especially after reading about you and how you’re making a name for yourself, as one of us girls that are not cookie-cutter, I have more ambition than ever to get this initiative out there.
Thank you so much. Neto Clobo Dlya Tebje.
You’re Amazing.
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May 21st, 2009 at 6:22 pm
I’m 100% asian (chinese, my ancestors were born either in Shanghai or around it). Just because I’m Chinese doesn’t mean that I:
Speak Chinese (I can though.).
Cook (not very well!)
Think that every American product is an engineering miracle.
Shop in markets where people don’t sell sanitary food. (I shop at Costco)
Have every single other asian-looking person be my “cousin”.
Forecast your future.
Have 85 little brothers and sisters. (I’m an only child.)
Be either super trendy or super awkward.
Pin straight, long black hair that is really shiny. (my hair is 5 different shades of brown. and is half-layered and somewhat wavy and curly)
Reuse used paper towels. O_O
Be incredibly smart.
Have an Asian accent or some kind of speech impediment caused by my “buck teeth”.
Am SUPER skinny or SUPER fat.
Really slutty or amazingly chaste.
Quiet.
Take pictures of everything. (I’m both photogenic and I like to have some memories, so what!?)
Especially since I’m young these questions are practically mandatory when I see someone new. It’s ridiculous! One time (this is so funny) this lady asked me where I was born because I was applying for something and she had to do background, and I replied,”California.” then she asks me where my parents are from and I say, “Shanghai.” and she ACTUALLY SAID, “Oh your English is incredible!”
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I stepped on her toe.
And she wore open-toe shoes.
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May 21st, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I know how you feel. I’ve never been outside my country, I must confess, but internet amazes me…
Brazilians are usually seen as sluts. Beautiful girls, really easy, who’ll have sex with you and dance some samba on carnaval – you don’t even need to ask or hit them!! ¬¬’
But, I find it funny when people ask me if I’m a soccer genius….
One day and australian student at my school told us how impressed he was we didn’t live in a small town near the beach and the jungle.
Surprise, surprise!
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May 21st, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Rachel> Yeah, I don’t think America is that bad compared to other mostly-one-ethnicity countries. My friend in Korea has a weird stereotype that people in the US is all blond and blue eyed.. no matter how much I tell her that’s not true. In the US, at least you get exposure to different ethnicities.. in one-ethnicity countries.. all you have are TV and limited articles.
Yeah.. I hate those, oh which city are you from questions, too. I want to say “I don’t care if it’s the capital, if you know one city how likely do you think I’m from there?” I’m Korean by the way. Usually people don’t really go down to the specific ethnicity so they just see me as “asian” and comment on how well I speak english. (I should probably add to their comment that I can probably whoop their ass in English grammar and spelling) Of course the obvious stereotype is I’m really smart, study all the time and play in the orchestra. So not true. (I’m guilty of fullfilling the asians do martial arts stereotype though haha)
I have a good friend who is Japanese-white mixed and she gets really annoyed with people giving her the confused look with “uh… so what are you” like her whole existance doesn’t make sense. So sad.
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May 21st, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I am Chicana (American of Mexican descent), living in Phoenix, AZ, but I am brown living near the Mexico border, so I must be illegal, right?! That is the only stereo typing that I get. I used to get a lot of crap from both side, like I “act” too white to be Mexican, and I am too brown to be American. Now I just ignore it all, because for those who want to judge me on who they think I am, or might be, or should be, are losing out on who I really am.
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May 21st, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I’m Ukrainian, living in New Zealand. I completely stand out, and have only recently made amends with it.
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May 21st, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I’m Canadian, and that’s what I identify with, but my father was born and lived in England until he was about 26, So it’s not so much me that gets stereotyped, but England itself.
I’ve been there a number of times to visit her, most recently this year, and when I got back I got all sorts of bizarre questions. Probably the most so was a person asking if my grandmother was royalty, and if she had a castle.
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May 21st, 2009 at 7:28 pm
I have Serbian and Czechoslovakian(my grandparents), and Russian (my great grandparents), and irish/british (my moms side this is really far back my ansestors came to america and lived in jamestown)i look american so i dont really get any sterotype and most people dont sterotype me till itell them im half jewish and tell them my old last name ( my grandparents changed it when they came to the us) and it annoys me when they mis pronounce it when i tell them( its never sterotype people and i dont judge people till i know them ( ecept the usual she/he seems nice) also i hate when people see my red hair and think its fake id if that a strotype but it annoys me :)
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May 21st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I guess I kind of have it easy. One in three people in Australia is an immigrant or a first generation Australian. I’ve been out with friends & looked around realising that only one or two out of the whole group of people I’m with was actually *born* here.
My boyfriend & I are lucky though. Neither of us has a (non-Australian) accent & we’re both generic-looking white people. When he tells people he’s from South Africa though, people do get a bit weird. There are some strong stereotypes concerning white South Africans.
Don’t worry too much about people not knowing the city/region where you were born. I think it happens to us all. When I’m overseas & I tell people I’m from Australia they atomically assume that I live in Sydney. It drives me nuts!
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May 21st, 2009 at 7:36 pm
i was born here and i have no accent but i have a last name that is a hefty 12 letters long filled with v’s and d’s and z’s and a whole lot of e’s. explaining where my parents come from takes a nice ten mintutes. i’ve lived with them all my life and the only thing i know for sure is that at one point they resided in uzbekistan. the annoying smart *****s are allways persistent in saying: hay! uzbekistan is a muslim country you can’t be russian you’re all mixed up. because ofcourse i definitly dont know my family or my roots. but when they were there, uzbekistant was a part of the soviet union which was a part of russia and uzbekistan was predominately russian until it split up (two days after my parents left). Unfortunately i have to go through the tiring and embarrassing length of the story once i start, i only wish it was as normal as “my dad got a job with an american country” but my parents’ story really does contain traces of illeagal atlantic crossings and loopholes in the governemnt.
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May 21st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I consider myself to be German, even though I am only 1/4. My grandmother came over into America with her family during WWII.
There are a lot of negative stereotypes that come with being German. Often, if you tell someone in my highschool that you are German, they’ll assume you’re a member of the Nazi party. I find it extremely offensive.
Actually, just this tuesday in my Chemistry class, someone asked a question about which countries in the World had nuclear weapons. My teacher listed them off, counting on his fingers. When he was done, someone asked, “What about Germany?” and he responded with a no. Another girl then said, “Thank God”. I was deeply offended, asking her what she meant by that, and she replied that with Germany’s history, it’s a good thing they don’t have nuclear weapons. Needless to say, my jaw dropped. To blame an entire nation for the work of a dictator is so small-minded. People in Germany are now just starting to gain pride in their country, afer all these years. While I was there last summer, I saw German flags hanging out windows in the cities, celebrating Germany’s advancement in the World Cup, and it was refreshing.
I’m rambling, but I completely understand stereotypes and how they are wrong most of the time.
-Suzye
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May 21st, 2009 at 7:59 pm
My dad is from New Zealand, but his parents are Scottish (Grandma directly from Scotland, Grandpa is pure Scot from Nova Scotia Canada). Every time I would mention that my Dad is a Kiwi, people gave me this look, and say “Your dad is a fruit?” which sent me into a whole song and dance about a Kiwi being a flightless bird, a fruit, and what a large number of the people in NZ call themselves.
And then when people find out that the rest of my heritage is Irish, Scottish, Welsh, and very little native american they get the impression that I can drink when in reality I’m a super lightweight.
And always, always remember, New Zealand is not part of Australia and the people are not the same.
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May 21st, 2009 at 8:02 pm
I’m 100% Chinese but don’t have any family in China. Both of my parents were born and raised in Burma. People ask me if I’m from Japan or China as if those are the only two Asian countries.
Whenever someone asks where I’m from, I say “Brooklyn.” The follow up question is usually, “No, where are you really from?” I will always be seen as an immigrant even being born and raised in Brooklyn.
I have a friend who’s a 5th generation Asian American and he still gets the question, “Where are you really from?”
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May 21st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
This is very interesting. It’s sort of funny, because I actually never think of these stereotypes (the only Russian girl I ever met had serious stalkeristic issues and was certainly not beautiful), but at the same time, these all sound familiar to me. I am actually half German (the other half is English-Scotch-Irish), and I always get Nazi jokes. And blond jokes. It’s really not cool. However, as of this coming saturday, I will no longer be a blonde, as I’m dying my hair red right after prom… YES!!
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May 21st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
My Mom is from the Philippines. She’s lived in this country (England) for more than twenty years but she still gets confronted with silly stereotypes at times. There are Filipina mail order brides, too, which leads to talk about passport-hunting and gold-digging…
…but most of the time, these people are ignorant, anyway.
x
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May 21st, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Oh, and as a reply to Chriss who posted above me:
I get asked the “Where are you really from?” question, too, and I don’t even think I look particularly non-English. XD
x
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May 21st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
I cannot respond to much of this but just to what I know. I was born and raised in the USA. I am Scottish, English, Irish,Dutch, German, Russian and French.I am very interested in where people come from (even if it’s just from another state different than the one we are in) I mean no disrespect when I ask questions. If someone has a last name this unusual to me I may ask the person about it.I may do the same when I hear an accent. This is only because I like to learn about people, different places, different traditions,etc..Sometimes questions come out wrong. No one is perfect. Yes there are a few stupid people who are being mean on purpose, but that is the minority. I guess I should just stop being interested in other people for fear I may ask a question in the wrong way and offend them. Personally I think it’s nice when others are interested in learning about me.
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May 21st, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I don’t know if this will make you feel better or worse, but I have to tell you, those seedy guys hitting on you: that happens to all the young, attractive women in this country! I’m, at first glance, a “white” American girl, and I get that kind of crap on a daily basis. I’ve been dealing with it since I was about 12 or 13, and coming up on 26 next month, that works out to more than a decade of cat calls and offers from “photographers,” and the like.
At this point, I’m so conditioned to ignore men talking to me that I’ve actually made a fool of myself a time or two. Once, when I was leaving a grocery store, and a man would not stop calling out to me. I ignored him for a while, but when he started to chase after me, I turned around to tell him off. Before I could, he held up a bag of frozen pizzas I’d apparently left behind at the register. I felt like a tool! But honestly, nearly every other time a man has called out like that, it’s been to hit on me in an inappropriate way.
My heritage is roughly 50% Native American & 50% white American (most of that German). Because I have pale skin and green/blue eyes, people generally assume I’m making up the fact that I’m Native American. A lot of people in this country have a bit of in their blood and tend to exaggerate the amount (maybe because they think it makes them sound exotic?), but that’s not me.
My maternal grandmother is a full-blooded Native American (Creek), and both my father’s parents are roughly 50% Native American (Cherokee). Sometimes I wish I looked more the part, so people would take me seriously. But then, I’d be dealing with the issues dark-skinned people face, and that would probably be worse.
I have a group of Russian friends, and they all describe themselves that way (at least to Americans), but I know that only some of them are from Russia. Some are from Belarus and some are from Ukraine. I have erred a time of two by asking ignorant questions (the annoying, “Why did you come to this country?” and the even worse, “Say something to them!” upon catching wind of other Russian-speaking people – I hang my head in shame!), but I was the first openly gay friend they made here, and they asked a few ignorant questions regarding that, so I figure we’re even! :) I think it just comes down to experience. If you’ve never been around anyone openly gay, or anyone Russian, or anyone different from you in some way, you tend to ask stupid questions until you know better. Thankfully, I know better now!
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May 21st, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Wow, I just realized I left you a novel for a comment! But I’ve been reading your blog for a while now and usually don’t comment, so I guess I’m making up for that! ;)
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May 21st, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Good read! <3
I’m as white as the sky, sadly, and only a 2nd generation German, American born.
I think everyone gets hit on by creepers. I get extra creepers because they assume all goth girls love whack-jobs. How far from the truth!! D:
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May 21st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
great article !
i’m half korean and half new zealander, living in new zealand. a lot of people ask me where i come from, and i’m so sick of answering. i know that they will make assumptions about me based on where i’m from, i don’t want to be pushed into any of the stereotypes of asian or white. so many people tell me ‘you’re more asian than white’ or ‘you’re more white than asian’, so what is it!? hahahha
personally, i don’t label myself as asian OR white, i’m just me :D
the colour of my skin, hair, eyes, does not define meand trying to fit yourself into a category will only hold you down :D
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May 21st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
I’m Taiwanese/Chinese, and I think the stereotype is just that we’re super nerdy and socially awkward. Which is a little irritating, but ehh.
I had no idea Russian girls were stereotyped so heavily and negatively.. This was an eye-opener and an entertaining (is it bad that it was entertaining? entertaining in an interesting way, if you know what I mean) read.
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May 21st, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I seriously doubt that people hit on you, etc, because of your race. They just hit on you cause you’re cute/hot.
I am immediately intrigued when I meet someone with an accent or from a country I’m not super familiar with, it’s a chance to learn!
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May 21st, 2009 at 10:27 pm
My mother is also from the Philippines and that being said there are a lot of stereotypes associated with that. Yes its true that my mom married my father who was in the military at that time and that’s how she came to America….but that’s the only stereotype that’s true! No, I do not eat dogs….and no I don’t know how to climb coconut trees, or any tree for that matter!! But there are also other stereotypes besides just the ones based on one’s ethnicity. For example, I’m originally from southern California, San Diego to be exact. Upon moving to Pennsylvania I discovered there are a lot stereotypes associated with the west coast. I’m not a surfer or an air head, and I don’t say “like” almost every other word. I don’t get upset when people ask me questions or say things that seem a little insensitive, I just take it with a grain of salt.
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May 21st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
I was reading all the comments above mine and I have to say I feel a little jealous. I am for lack of a better ways to put it Southern…or just American. At least the past 3 generations(on my mother and father’s side) are from Georgia. I just so happen to be Scottish and Irish on both sides as well. And I’m a little bit Native American. I have never really identified with any of those however.
I am from the South thorough and thorough. But I don’t believe that “the South will rise again”
I don’t drive a pick up truck.
I don’t listen to country music or wear overalls…and I don’t know anyone who has married there cousin.
One last thing…My husband is half cuban. My last name is “de Armas” So now I can only imagine what people will think of me before we actually meet…
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May 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
I’m sorry you get stereotyped. After reading some comments others have left, I hope you feel as if you are more than not alone. Take care.
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May 21st, 2009 at 10:55 pm
If asked I say I’m European or a mutt.
I have a German last name, so I get called a nazi a lot. The fact that I drive a 66 VW Beetle only reinforces that.
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May 21st, 2009 at 11:12 pm
That was a great article, I loved reading it.
Even though it’s only a part of my ethnicity I mostly consider myself Croatian. So of course Serbians think negatively of me at first, but most Americans just have no idea what Croatia is.
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May 21st, 2009 at 11:13 pm
I should have added this before, of course not ALL Serbians do, but I’ve met plenty that still have the same old grudges.
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May 21st, 2009 at 11:28 pm
I consider myself two things.
Firstly. Floridian. I know, not an Ethetincity, but it’s something that is very heavily stereotyped, in my experience and I thought it’d be interesting. There are a lot of stereotypes with this, especially with people I talk to online. Mainly that I must be blond, tall, tan, and trim, that I probably sleep around and that I party a lot and go to Disney all the time. Often also that I’m heavily Christian and racist.
I’m short, pale, a red head and a little overweight. I don’t sleep with people unless I really really trust them (which is rare), I don’t like most parties, I prefer drinking with friends and I don’t like Disney much. Except Epcot, but I rarely go. Also, I’m not at all religious and want to beat racists in the face with a pole.
Second, I identify with my Norwegian roots (I’m about 75% Norwegian). With this comes that I’m alcoholic, still blond and tall,unsophisticated fish addict and uncaring.
I don’t really like most fish and I’ve been told I’m very kind and try to help everyone, even if I don’t really like someone much.
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May 21st, 2009 at 11:50 pm
I’m Italian. I look white. I’ve never really encountered any kind of stereotype based on my heritage. Suffice to say that one of my great grandma’s was actually a mail order bride!
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May 21st, 2009 at 11:55 pm
100% chinese and living in NYC and get all the typical questions. Some tourist once asked me in really slow English where Chinatown was and needless I pointed him in the wrong direction
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May 22nd, 2009 at 12:28 am
I am Chinese-American. I was born here, so I am more in tune with the American culture than the Taiwanese/Chinese culture of my parents. I live in Silicon Valley, California where there’s a large percentage of Asians in general.
For one, that thing about Asians being bad drivers bothers me very much, because I am an EXCELLENT driver (haha).
Another thing: the high school I go to, where the majority of students are first generation Asians with immigrant parents, was recently the subject of a New York Times article “The White Flight”. It basically accused the Asians of being overly academically competitive and driving away white students. Needless to say, most people were extremely offended. The stereotype of overbearing, GPA-oriented and competitive Asians is of course true to an extent, but that’s all it is – to an extent.
It also bothers me that so many people view my drive to do well academically in such a negative light – they automatically think I’m one of those grade-obsessed Asian nerds with no lives.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 am
I usually just say “white” when the subject of my ethnicity comes up. And usually the subject is left at that. I look white, and both of my parents look white, so it works.
If there is a problem, it generally comes up when my nationality is mentioned. I’m both and American citizen and a Turkish citizen, and when it’s brought up I usually get questions. If I don’t feel like talking I just agree to everything until the person shuts up. If I’m feeling a bit more social I’ll explain that I have Turkish citizenship because my two American parents had me in Turkey, I cannot speak Turkish, and no, I’m not a Muslim.
Generally, I don’t have any problems. I think the only problem I’ve ever had is when this Armenian guy went off on me after the subject of my birthplace came up. After all, if I’m from Turkey I’m just a horrible person that wants all the Armenians dead and don’t have the balls to admit it (read: the Armenian Genocide). It really did hurt because I never denied the Armenian Genocide happened, and he merely assumed I did because of where I was born and behaved like that. :|
Okay, nevermind, I recall problems regarding it in elementary school when some girl gave me problems over it after we had a Show and Tell session where we had to share things from when we were younger. But she was all kinds of stupid so I couldn’t be bothered to care.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 am
I’m a New Zealander or Pakeha in Maori, My mother is of Scottish decent and my father is Irish, I identify with my Irish decent as the cultural aspects relate more to me,
I still get the commen ” diddley dee potatoes ” comment thrown in and and the assumed love of drink.
New Zealand has very distinct culture of its own and as a teacher I’m fortunate to be experiencing and learning more about the Maori culture – this has also began to affect my identity, though this could be due to some cultural links between Irish and Maori that draw me in.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 am
I’m 2nd gen Irish, 3rd gen scottish and a little bit of a brit that came over to america like 200 years ago… I got the looks. Short, big breasted, strong enough to lift a sheep, blue/green eyes, and a mass of almost black hair that has a mind of it’s own. (my friends joke that somewhere along the line I’m related to a dark one aka related to a silkie… kind of silly but you know how these things go). I’m also clumsy, a little quick tempered, my face turns red when I’m drunk, and i can hold a grudge… not to mention my name is Colleen which means girl in gaelic. <— fits stereotype yes
I’ve been called leprechaun, irish rose, etc. On some levels I’m glad that my grandparents nationalities really shine through genetically, but on the other hand I think it’s silly. I also sometimes think that associating with a nationality that you weren’t born into and don’t live in is silly but most of us do it anyway. Remembering are roots and so forth.
There have only been two times that nationality however has been a problem for me. In college my dorm mates were two other irish-american girls and a russian girl. Now everything was fine until one of my room mate’s father died. Now everything was kosher until the russian room mate (who was an inconsiderate person which all more has to do with being a spoiled inconsiderate rich girl than it does with being russian) said that all irish men were drunken bastards who beat their wives. it more offensive more so because of her poor judgment and bad timing.
the second I was in france for a student exchange program. while in their literature class the teacher was discussing the racism in american from the civil war to the human rights campaign. he went on to tell the class that most americans were racist and that it was still a huge problem in america today. now this caused a lot of students to become angry at us (the american exchange students). we had to try to explain that while racism still exists, not all americans are racists. needless to say it caused some problems.
so that’s my late night two cents.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 1:17 am
I am half Filipina and half Japanese.
Since some ignorant people cannot differentiate between Asian countries, they think “ALL” Asians eat cats and dogs.
During my sophmore year in U.S History, I was teased for doing horrible things for what the generations did before me. i.e Kamikaze and the killing of many innocent Chinese. Just recently, in my French Class, we were playing charades on nationality and this guy got Japanese. He did all the stereotypes, pulled his eyes back, small wee wee, and the kung-fu kick. My teacher knows I’m half Japanese, all she did was stop using the nationalities for the game and moved onto another subject.
I still get the stereotype commenets such as:
bad driver
EVERY Asian knows martial arts
I am fluent in every other Asian language
smart.
A funny situation is people mistaken me for being Mexican (first and last name sounds very hispanic) and people are shocked when I speak Japanese well. My school gave an award for being Native American to me and my sister, I told my counselor I’m not Native American. She just told me to keep it, it’s an award. :D
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May 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 am
It’s been so interesting not just reading the article you posted but also all of the comments.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 4:14 am
And I just submitted the first sentence of my comment, sorry about that.
As far as stereotype go, I’m mostly stereotyped by the region I live in in Belgium. I live in West-Flanders which has always been considered a ‘backward’ region by other people. Frankly I don’t care.
As for Belgium, we’re supposed to be all drunks, rapists or we have no idea what a democracy is (as we managed to still function as a country without a government for 10 months).
It’s strange how people just somehow need to put everything and everyone in boxes. I wonder what they’re afraid of… that they might actually like the others?
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May 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 am
:) well, even though i dont live in the USA and therefore i have the same ethnicity as the majority of people i see every day, i still feel the stereotypes haunting me in the internet!
I started chatting in several rooms in the net when i was just 14 years old and i remember being asked things as “isn’t Greece in Asia?” (it’s in Europe) “what language do you use there? English?” (Greek!..duuuh!)
After a while they would assume i am tanned all the time and have dark eyes and hair and imagined we are fanatic Christians and have flags of Greece everywhere in our houses! (e.g. my big fat greek wedding)
Its true that the greek community in the USA is very conservative (or was,until a few years ago) because they feel the need to continue with their motherland’s traditions without considering that time passes in Greece too, and that we are progressing along with the rest of the world!
I feel these are the results of ignorance, and the stereotype of the Americans (and noone deserves to live with one) is that they are pretty ignorant when it comes to other countries and a tiny bit of world History.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 5:48 am
I am English and about to move over permanently to the US to live with my american fiancé (we both met and lived in france.)
I have spent quite a while over there on visits and am amazed by the questions i get (have you ever seen a horse before? what language do they speak in england?) but mostly my how small people percieve the UK to be.
The most common question is, ‘oh my uncle/cousin/friend from high school lives in England…James…do you know him?’ 60 million people live here so the chances aren’t good :) On seperate occasions I was also asked if I know JK rowling and David Beckham…
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May 22nd, 2009 at 6:24 am
I’m Australian born with a mix of Indian, Irish, French, German and Portugese. It’s kind of cool – I have four brothers and sisters and none of us look alike – it’s like we got different parts of the different ethnicities. No-one ever picks us for siblings.
In the 80s and 90s, there was a reasonable amount of racism in Australia – ie for me and my darker siblings, we wouldn’t get served in shops, we had nasty remarks shouted at us in public, and I, personally, suffered isolation at school because no-one wanted to play with the dark girl.
I now have two little boys of my own. One is like me – dark skin, green eyes and dark hair. The other is like my husband – alabaster skin, blond hair and blue eyes. Once again, our mixed heritage has dealt some pretty odd cards.
It doesn’t seem to bother anyone that I am dark and my husband is white, or that our kids are different colours. Although my dad, who is very dark, always gets very odd looks when he carries my younger (white) son in public. Almost like ‘What in heck are you doing with that white baby’. It’s kinda funny because my ‘white’ baby spends so much time with my dad that he automatically gravitates to darker people – almost like he sees them as his own! I love that he is so unaware of his own skin in a society that is so obsessed with it.
I hated being different when I was young. Now I love it. And I’m so determined to raise my boys to embrace their differences and embrace others the same way.
Great post, Xenia. Personally, I could care less what nationality you are – you’re just super-duper fabulous!
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May 22nd, 2009 at 6:42 am
perhaps a hurtful issue is to be born in a country, and yet still be regarded in society as not deserving enough to be recognised as that nationality, just because physical appearance is different.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 6:57 am
It doesn’t matter where you’re from or where you are, you always get the exact same thing =] I’m an American girl living in England, and I always get asked why I’m here. I don’t actually know why =s Work, the economy, quality of life? Obviously not.. I consider myself be a New Yorker still, but I’ve been here for 10 years.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 am
Born and bred in Singapore, I was used to the kind of attention I got, after some time I was tired of people focusing on the fact that I am half Japanese (even more I think, because I don’t look Japanese), which is why sometimes I outright refuse to explain why I have my name, or just say “It is a mystery!” I’d entertain questions if I felt like it, but nowadays I just smile and move on to another topic. It’s been awkward for me at times, but I try to take it in stride.
I would guess people ask questions because they are curious – but I only wish they asked other questions or worded them in a different manner. My boyfriend’s parents knew I was brought up in a different culture, and made sure they weren’t stepping over boundaries or making me uncomfortable. In return I was open, honest and more than happy to answer their questions. I think just being open to asking different questions and hearing from the person rather than just placing your own assumptions onto them (whether directly or through the questions) makes a huge difference.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
I’m 100% Scottish. So I guess I’m a ginger, haggis loving, tight fisted, kilt wearing type of gal. I also live in a castle.
I personally blame the film “Braveheart” for about 80% of Scottish stereotypes. I also find it really bizarre how Americans love to link themselves to Scotland and Ireland. My dads aunts cousin was Scottish so I’ve got a Scottish heritage….
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May 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 am
my nationality is australian, and my ethnicity is basically half northern european mongrel (english, french, danish and so on), a quarter irish and a quarter unknown. my grandmother was born in vancouver and adopted out to wales when she was a baby, during wwII, so there are pretty much no records aside from her name at birth having been roberta cole and the fact that her father was very tall. we assume it’s jewish, since we’ve been told cole is a jewish name.
my father only found this out after he turned 50 and is still a rampant stereotype, saying ‘oy’ at every opportunity and bitching like there’s no tomorrow. that might be more of a grumpy old man stereotype than anything, though.
despite being basically a white kid I still have people assuming I’m spanish or arabic sometimes. my mother has black hair and easily tanned skin despite being very irish. I dunno.
I live in a less-than-tolerant state (not the mention country), so usually is someone asks I just say ‘mongrel’. and living in an area where almost everyone is white, by the time the hundredth person uses ‘being irish’ as an excuse for being stupid you kind of stop asking. plus, I grew up in the torres straits and got beat up for being one of the five white kids out of 400, so the latent racism attached with being australian kind of pisses me off. black jokes are not funny when your cousins are papua new guinean.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 10:13 am
Even within Canada, there are steryotypes about other Canadians (AKA anyone from Quebec) which seems quite idiotic to me.
I was born in Quebec, and am quite proud of the fact, despite being called a “Frog” multiple times. However, the assumtion is that I speak fluent french, hate the rest of Canada, and have poor hygiene. None of which is true.
In general, Canadians are expected to live in igloos, have pet beevers, and view hockey as a religion. Going down south is never a fun thing, as there are quite a few people who have this weird hate on for Canadians.
Steryotypes in general are very hurtful things. In my opinion, race plays no part in anything. It doesn’t matter what colour your skin is, your hair is, or your eyes are. It’s your actions that speak the loudest.
Great post, Xenia. :]
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May 22nd, 2009 at 11:12 am
Well, I’m from Singapore, in which it’s quite a cosmopolitan city in Southeast Asia, lots of different races and cultures coming together.
But the most annoying stereotype that I see around is that the Chinese nationals that come over to work are not highly regarded; people see them as scammers or hookers who break up families. Which isn’t true most of the time.
Yeah, as well as the idea that if you are married to a Vietnamese/Filipino woman, they are most likely mail order brides.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 11:22 am
While I am not a particularily ‘unusual’ ethnicity in England, in fact, I’m Welsh and English, being Welsh and proud leads to lots of negative stereotypes. People make jokes about inbreeding and our apparent preference for having sex with sheep, they assume we are all simple because of the lilt of the Welsh accent, despite my not having one, having been in England most of my life.
The biggest stereotypes I face are not associated with my ethnicity, but instead my physical appearance. I am 5ft 11, so assumed butch, and often gay, or seen as a natural domme, someone who is intimidating or violent, which I am not. I am a natural blonde, so seen as dumb and girly, while I make the odd mistake like many, I have just completed a university degree and am in the higher eschelons of the IQ range.
I am also partially deaf. This is the stereotype that causes me the most pain. I do not tend to tell people about my hearing unless necessary, I lipread and find it a struggle to communicate properly in loud places or clubs and bars because of the nature of a group of people. People see me as rude for asking them to repeat things and laugh at me and ask ‘are you deaf?’, when I reply that I am, they simply laugh and carry on regardless of the fact that I cannot participate in their conversations. People see it as a humerous medical problem, they talk how they image deaf people would, despite the fact that I am quite eloquent and have the same accent they do. They tend to ask what else is wrong with me, why I don’t have a hearing aid and rudely ask why I am deaf, not thinking that these are questions I have been asked thousands of times and have rehearsed answers for.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 11:24 am
I’m 100% Mexican, I’m first Generation Mexican American, and you would never notice. I’m well spoke, eloquent and soon to be in Graduate School. My father and mother were both Migrant farmworkers moving between Texas and Michigan, so I have lots of roots in those two states. They both ended up graduating from Eastern Michigan University, and The University of Michigan. And have sent me, my brother and my sister to the 3 Major Michigan schools (I hail from Texas and moved to Michigan for school). I have never had a problem with the majority population of America, since I do not sound any way ethnic (or Texan for that matter) or look ethnic (light tan skinned and dark hair). But it was within my own race do I receive the most criticism.
I’ve been called “Coconut” (white on the inside Brown on the Outside) for the majority of my success that I have had in my life. Or say that I’m not a Mexican because I’m too well dressed, well spoken, gone to college, or have a job. And for the most part, I’ve never been able to enjoy my ethnicity fully because somehow my success has always brought shame to my fellow Mexicans. I am Proud to be Mexican, even if I’m not a socially accepted stereotype.
The one area that I did get a lot of problems from majority American though is being Texan. You know how many times I got asked if I had a Horse!? (“Yes, Her name is Elantra and she’s a Hyundai” Would be my answer). Or if I were allowed to carry a gun to school, or if my Police road horses (this is actually true, look up the Texas Rangers, and no Walker isn’t one of them). My favorite though was, “Have you met Chuck Norris!?” A noteable Texan, but I would shock them with my answer “Yes I have, at a shoot when I was a model where I had to play a part of the Boys and Girl’s Club of America!” But somehow what bothers me is if Someone lived in Dallas, and I was from HOuston, and someone asked me if I knew that person (?????) I’d just tell them that Dallas and Houston are 5 hours away from each other and about two tottaly different cities. Oh well, it happens with people ask you about being Texan.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 11:28 am
I’m Croatian yet really don’t look like a “typical Croatian” (i.e. dark hair, pointy nose, brown eyes, etc.) and so some people tell me I have an accent and ask if I’m from Greece or Sweden. And when I tell them I’m Croatian they have no idea where that is. I don’t personally get stereotyped that much but I do get annoyed when people don’t know where Croatia is and also when people assume that it’s a poverty-ridden country.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 11:43 am
This has been very interesting – not just the article but the comments too.
I’m Scottish and living in Scotland, although since my Grandad traced our roots I have found out that my paternal side is Scandanavian and that I have Romany blood on my mothers side. This is pretty far back though so I guess I’m just Scottish.
I don’t get a lot of stereotyping where I live, but other countries seem to think that Scottish people, especially in cities such as the one I live (where, admittedly, we have an extremely high rate of alcoholism, poverty,drug abuse and teen pregnancy) that everyone is a junkie, alcoholic teen mother that lives in the ’schemes’ – or poor areas.
Although I have to admit that all the problems listed above are widespread in Scotland, I don’t like that people assume I will be uneducated, knocked up at 15, a heavy drinker or that I take drugs. None of these are true.
There are good qualities associated with Scottish people too though – we are considered one of the friendliest countries in the world and are known for our history of inventors (penecillin etc.)
So it’s sometimes not that bad. :)
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May 22nd, 2009 at 11:45 am
Interesting read and interesting comments, too!
I’m an all American mutt – German, Irish, Norwegian, Finnish, Native American (Sioux). My family has been here for generations, but not sure how many. I look like a typical white girl and my two littles are all blonde hair and blue eyes (They will be adding Swedish to their mutt-ness).
I grew up in a smaller town, so I didn’t get much exposure to different ethnicities. My kids have little friends that are Asian, Indian, African-American. I have hope that they won’t see a person’s skin color and ever think of them as different.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 11:55 am
That is a wonderful article! I’m so glad you found it and posted it for us to read! I am an American “mutt” (not sure I like that term at all), but mostly Irish-Lebanese and proud of it. I self-identify as Irish-Lebanese American, not white, which sometimes confuses people when I correct them. It annoys me when people say “You don’t look Lebanese.” and give me skeptical looks. Adoption seems to be a much more confusing topic than I thought and I often am embarrassed to tell someone else’s adoption story in order to explain my own ethnicity. It’s not my story to tell, in my opinion.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I love how you say Xenia in Russian. Sounds much more beautiful than in English. My great grandfather’s second wife was Xenia. He had many connections to Russia, his grandmother was of Russian decent too, though her name was Nadia. Because of that we also have Nadeschda (not entirely sure on how you write that) in the family.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Born and raised on Long Island. My race is white. But I’m a mutt basically. German, Irish, Italian, Russian, and English. Actually I can remember that growing up when I was asked in school what I was(basically because that’s what people do when you live in a mostly white town) and I mentioned that I was all those things kids were like, “wow, that’s a lot”. I didn’t realise that most kids had maybe two different ethnicities max.
So the best part about my ethnic background is that you’d probably never guess what I was. First, I look German. The whole blonde hair blue eyes thing, yeah, I have that. But it’s dirty blonde(it got darker as I got older, but I used to be white blonde up until about the 4th grade). Second, my name is Italian. My last name is Nicosia, which is actually the town in Sicily where my family came from. And it never fails that no one can pronounce it, ever(kinda sounds like nick-ko-sea-uh, I’m not very good with phonetic spelling). I don’t look Russian at all and the only Irish-ness and English-ness I have going for me is that I’m white. But because I’m also Italian, I tan and don’t burn, and I’m not super pale.
And I never face really bad and degrading stereotypes, and it’s honestly because I’m white, which is stupid and unfair to everyone else and I know this but unfortunately that is how people behave. I hate it and trust me, I try to do the best I can to get other people educated and I try to stop them from being ridiculously ignorant.
I only get the lame normal joking stereotypes that come along with my ethnic background. Italian- mafia, lots of food, etc. Irish- drunk (I actually don’t like drinking at all so that’s funny…and yes, I can legally drink) German- the whole Aryan thing, Nazi, yada-yada. And nobody ever comments on my English or Russian background.
The one stereotype that I’m actually worried about has nothing to do with my ethnic background. My boyfriend is Korean. And the one thing I don’t want to get stereotyped as is one of those white girls who has like an asian fetish or only eats Korean food BECAUSE of my boyfriend, not because I honestly actually like it.
And I’m actually worried that once we get married and have a family, that I’ll be out with our kids alone and I really think that someone will just assume that because I’m white and I have an asian-looking child (because odds are in favour of my boyfriend’s more dominant genes) that I adopted them. Because really, there are not that many white women marrying asian men and I’m not sure many people can even name one white lady/asian guy couple they know personally. I think that it doesn’t occur to most people to think that a white woman with an asian child could have an asian husband. Their minds would just automatically jump to “the baby is adopted”. So thank you hollywood for never having strong asian male figures in your non-martial arts movies and for making white men get the asian girl and making the asian man look weak in comparison. Really, just good job hollywood for making inter-racial couples non-existent in general unless it’s a white man with a non white woman./rant
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May 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Wow, very interesting editorial/story.
My very own “short version”: I am originally Indian, but my parents are born in Suriname (a small country in South-America, previously a colony of the Netherlands) and I am born and raised in the Netherlands !
The long version includes the story of the immigrants that came to work in a lot of countries after slavery was forbidden. A stream of Indian immigrants came to work in Suriname too around 1870-1900, because the plantations there were empty because of the loss of slaves. My ancestors are the Indians that came to Suriname, and in 1975 Suriname was declared independent which caused a stream of people to come to the Netherlands and that is were my parents met.
I am very proud to be born in the Netherlands, go to Suriname to see my family and feel completely at home in India because of my roots.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
This is great, I love reading everyone’s unique story. Keep ‘em coming!!
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May 22nd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
That was very thought provoking!
I enjoyed reading that very much (:
To be completely honest, I’m an American ‘mutt’ as well; Hungarian, Irish, & German. I don’t KNOW of any preconceived stereotypes that people hold to me, but there is a funny, somewhat strange story.. in elementary, anyone that had seen my last name (which is full Hungarian), and thought I was Jewish! Though that’s not really related… ^^
Although, I can say I can’t say I hold people to stereotypes when I found out if they’re from a different country or the like. I do, however, become quite intrigued, and question as much as possible to get information about, not their background, but what they remember about that specific country’s environment, culture, etc. :D
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May 22nd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
I’m Australian. I’ve lived in Chicago for eight years and, though I don’t “look” Australian, I’m stereotyped right away by the way that I talk. All that most people know about Australia stems from the Crocodile Hunter and Crocodile Dundee. People make cracks about me being a convict all the time, something that most Australians–including me–aren’t exactly psyched on.
People also feel free to ask me very personal questions that I don’t think they’d ask someone with an American accent. I don’t mind answering politely because I know it’s curiosity, not unkindness that makes them ask, but it’s very difficult sometimes. It can be very invasive; I’ve found turning things into a joke works well as a defensive mechanism.
That’s been my experience; reading through the comments here, I guess nobody has it better or worse, we all just have it different.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
i have to say, it may sound silly but i hate being american. sure, it’s a great country, truly unique. but we have such a horrid past of making fun of and belittling other cultures! and i am also about 60% german. this also has a stereotype-tough, beer drinking, and generally crazy. at least, that’s the response i get. it doesn’t help that my last name is unpronouncably german except to my old german grandmother. my facial structure is very german, but many people think i’m russian. i almost wish i could say taht instead-because i’m not from somewhere likeable, even though it’s quite an amiable country. either way, i wish we weren’t so judged by what we look or sound like. it doesn’t do an ounce of good. thanks for posting this, deere.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I agree with Cherany and aimee. Seedy guys come up to EVERY attractive young girl at some point in their lives, and you doll, are attractive.
I live in a mid-size Alaskan town where there is a large Russian Orthodox community. Many people stereotype against them, but they’re really great people once you get to talking and hey know you’re being genuine. People think they are drunks who beat their wives. I’m sure this has happened, but not in every family. There’s also a very high domestic abuse rate here. Where I live is very conservative but there are also a lot of people who aren’t.
I’m from the Midwest which some stereotype against, but not too bad. Just that I grew up on a farm, haha, no. I also have very short hair and get pegged as a lesbian, which I’m at least bisexual, so it only bothers me that they stereotype about appearances. I also dated an Alaskan Native for a while. They all get pegged as alcoholics and drug addicts, so I was too, by association. When people find out I’m bisexual or that I like women I get labeled as a slut or desperate. I’m not.
Another huge one right now is the Sarah Palin thing, everyone from the states assumes we worship her. Ha! I’m not even sure if I got the right form of “Sarah” there!
So I guess the thing is, Doe, everyone faces some sort of stereotype. It could be state, country, race, religion, sexuality, accent, voice pitch, anything!
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May 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I was going to write an incredibly long answer, but I can just shorten it down;
I moved to Spain from England, and I only get stick from OTHER english people, and not spanish people or any other nationality. I’ve had russian, french, german, ecuadorian, ukranian, scottish, swedish/korean, and welsh friends.
The reason I get stick from other english is because I am from Essex, near London, and there is some kind of stereotype of essex girls that I do not fit. I am fairly well-spoken, and I take learning seriously, so I am often getting comments here and there, poking at the way I am different from other english.
I had braced myself for racial prejudice before I came over, but I never expected some kind of prejudice because of where I am from to come from OTHER english.
Am I the only one to have this? :S
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May 22nd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I’m Mexican. A stereotypical one at that. Both my brothers work in construction, my mom cleans offices for a living, the neighbors cuss at their two year olds and crackheads live on our street. The music is loud and raunchy, there are clotheslines scattered allover the neighborhood; hell we even keep chickens in our backyard.
But it doesn’t mean we’re ignorant, dirty, and any less of a person than anyone else. My sister’s a teacher, I’m in grad school studying to become a kick ass engineer, and you know what, eating organic eggs is good for you! Yes i rock my ghetto chick attitude, but I wear my glasses, am a vegetarian, and study hard too. It’s important to realize everyone is capable of success and everyone is just as awesome as everyone else. Ignorance will get you nowhere.
Peace
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May 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I’m Chinese Canadian and I often get the “where are you from?” I get offended if people assume I’m Korean or Japanese or Filipino but never said Chinese.(Contrary to the other way around) -_-’ I haven’t faced too many discrimination but that could be I keep things to myself.
If there is one: One time I was verbally assaulted by an crippled lady at the mall food court. She’s not caucasian, she’s East Indian and told me to go back to China because Christmas is not for Chinese. I shot back at her and told her to go back to India/Bangladesh. She then wouldn’t give up and continued to jab her elbow at me when I threatened to call the Police. Geez, you’re an immigrant yourself and you’re discriminating me? Get a life.
Frankly, only this East Indian woman has done the whole discriminating deed to me. Though caucasians did mistake me for who I am, I was never openly discriminated by them verbally. At least not yet, but I don’t care. :)
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May 22nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
“Today we are going to learn about Scandinavia” my geography teacher told our 7th grade class at the International School of Frankfurt (in Germany). There followed a silence – nobody seemed to be able to form any kind of clear though as to what this might mean – until one of my fellow classmates, Lydia from the USA, exclaimed in confusion “But I thought Scandinavia only exists in fairy tales!”
Confusion – that is what sums up people’s reaction to me being a Finn. A lot people don’t know where Finland is in the first place, and if they do they assume it to be an icy land of polar bears and igloos. Or saucy saunas – of course.
And more than often I am mistaken for some other nationality. Usually I’m a Swede (maybe because I speak swedish?) or Russian but sometimes I’m even thought to be an eskimo or a mongolian.
No, life ain’t easy in Nokia land, but then again, is it anywhere? No matter how liberal I am or how internationally I’ve been brought up I am only a human and I admit – I have prejudice of my own.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
No matter you go, you’ll get the same thing. When I lived in Japan I had the American stereotype: I was supposed to be glamorous, own a gun, and be funny. At least I was funny.
My mother came to the States from New Zealand in the 60s. Nobody knew where that was. Somebody once asked her where she got clothes before she came to America; they assumed New Zealand was somewhere where nudity was ‘anthropology’ rather than ‘porn’.
Being from Missouri, I get the Midwest/fly-over-country stereotype when in LA or NY. I’m supposed to be well-meaning, but stupidly naive and slow.
Being a woman in a ‘manly’ motorcycle environment, I get patronized every week by people that know less about motorcycles than I do. We’re not supposed to know anything about mechanics.
It is, sadly, universal. Just remember; ignorance is curable. Only stupidity is forever.
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May 22nd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Ahh I understand completely where Melody is coming from. I’m an Essex girl, and I do love coming from Essex (we may not have the best accent but I like it) but the stereotype for us is terrible. We all supposedly are easy, cheap, stupid, dance around our handbags in white stilettos, basically the trashiest people out there. It’s sad how many people were shocked when I explain I was a virgin till 23, most girls in Essex are expected to be sleeping around by 12. That is not a nice rep to have (I don’t even own a handbag btw and the only white footwear I own are DM’s!)
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May 23rd, 2009 at 2:13 am
i am a mix of things.
I am about 70% native american (cree) and the rest of me is a mix of Italian, Scottish, and Ukranian.
I’ve been stereoyped a ton before.
People automatically assume that i am stupid, have a kid, drink listerine to get drunk, dropped out of school, all the females in my family are hookers, all the men in my family are drug dealers, gangsters, woman beaters, etc. It’s really horrible to be steretyped like that when i am nothing like that and neither is my family.
I am well educated, i do not drink, smoke, and needless to say i do not have a baby.
I plan on being a lawyer, just like my uncles and aunt. My grandmother is teacher, my faher and mother councillors, so my family does not fill any stereotypes.
I hate stereotypes. It’s weird that even though i am mostly Native, I look what most would say Italian. People always make fun of me for being so light, and it really hurts my feeling.
Stereotypes suck.
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May 23rd, 2009 at 5:01 am
I was born in Australia however my mother is English and my father is Israeli. I’m very fair in complexion and as soon as I tell someone I am part middle eastern they straight away ask me: “You’re pale as. Why are you not black?”
Being Australian also has its downfalls. There are so many stereotypes associated with other country. The majority of us do not live in the outback, and we don’t ride Kangaroos to school and work (that’s a common one!).
However, there are perks. I went to America not to long ago. I was shopping in this grocery store when I smiled at the store keeper and polietly said “hello” and he asked: “Are you Australian?” I replied with yes and he smiled and said “Australian you can have free stuff!”
I understand where you are coming from. However, there seems to be a certain amount of discrimination for every nationality. Also, I think most guys tend to see a stylish woman wearing make-up and immediatly think she’s easy. Tut tut. Just because some of us are not the jeans and t-shirt kind of girls doesn’t make us all whores.
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May 23rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
That is a topic to sting right into my heart. Cause it is highly discussed here in Estonia. There are 30% of Russian living here due to historical events, which took place long before I was born.
One cannot hide their nationality here, because there are only two major national groups with different menthality, living quite isolated from each other. And being Russian is highly stereotyped and associated mainly with bad human qualities and uncivilized social behavior.
Going abroad I’d rather say I’m Estonian from Estonia, because people are aware of stereotypes and are mostly afraid to deal with “uncivilized” Russians. Also I feel uncomfortable telling the whole long story about the USSR thing and how I got to live Estonia, and why I don’t go back to “my country”.
Although I really appreciate my nationality, sometimes I feel inconvenience and also difficulty in determining my nationality.
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May 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
This is so interesting! And very well written, I really enjoyed reading it.
It’s one of those things that you can relate to knowing the stereotypes or even thinking them yourself. I have a friend from Murmansk who I’ve always thought of as Norwegian (she speaks it and her boyfriend is Norwegian, they’re inseparable). I was asking her about the summers there and she thought I had assumed it’s a frozen wasteland like in the movies. I do admit though, I didn’t realise quite how warm the summers are! I’d love to visit someday.
I’m Scottish and lived in California for a year, and some of the things I was asked were pretty hilarious. My friend from New Zealand got it worse, though. Her Malaysian heritage confused people even more. Someone asked her if you can really get arrested for chewing gum. Oh, stereotypes!
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May 23rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
thank you for posting that.
i’m not russian but i do often have to explain myself (although not as often as i used to – i suppose that now that i’m in my 30s, it would seem rude to pry into my personal life). my mom is from korea and my dad is white/american. i was born here but it is pretty amazing the number of people that have been astonished that i speak engish so well! (i kid you not.) being mixed race always gets people wondering which i don’t mind as much as i used to.
there is this book called “american knees” (fiction) and there’s this line that goes something like (in reference to half-asian/half-white girls) “white enough to bring home to mom, asian enough to fulfill the fantasy.” and vice versa.
usually it’s a creepy or weird guy that hits on me. i’m not sure if it has to do with my “mysterious” or “exotic” appearance and what may come with that. although i think for you, a sleazy photographer may just just think you are drop dead gorgeous – b/c you are! :) but i understand, the desire to not want to be objectified in that way.
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May 24th, 2009 at 12:24 am
I’m half Lithuanian & half Italian (both of my parent’s families came over to the U.S. when they were very young & I’m constantly telling people that too, lol) but EVERYONE thinks I’m Russian. I came out with deep dark brown hair, snow white skin (much like yours), large green eyes & full lips. I even get people coming up to me speaking Russian or others wondering why I don’t have an accent.
Men always bug me too when I’m out by myself! Over the years I’ve learned to raise my eyebrows just a bit, relax my mouth & hold my head up just a little more then usual (also helps to look really bored or annoyed) when I notice a guy is looking at me or about to come up to me & it always stops them from saying anything. The benefit of having bigger eyes & lips is that it’s much easier for people to read your expression from a distance. :P Try it out, it totally works! ;)
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May 24th, 2009 at 3:32 am
I’m German, Irish, Cherokee, and Dutch. Super American mutt, 4th generation Californian, but everyone assumes I am Russian based off the way I look (big eyes, wide & high cheeks, full lips, blonde hair, tall & lanky).
Plus I hula hoop for a living, so people are always like “OMG DID YOU LEARN TO DO THAT IN THE CIRCUS IN RUSSIA?!!?!!?! LIKE WERE YOU TRAINING FOR THE OLYMPICS”
Sometimes I play along…lol
I like having such a history in California, especially the city of San Francisco. SF is my homeland.
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May 24th, 2009 at 5:10 am
I am almost entirely Egyptian with Turkish ancestry living in Egypt at the mo , but because of my Dad’s job (diplomat) have lived most of my life abroad , personally I haven’t faced any troubling sort of stereotyping(possibly because of my English accent result of years spent in England) beyond “oh do you live in pyramid” and ‘DO you get around on camel” (funnily enough I have never ever ridden a camel)just vaguely annoying when said in earnest but friends of mine post 9/11 espeacially often had a hard time. people tend to assume that all middle eastern women are subservient and voiceless and ignorant and wear the Burqa (when really a small number do and usually do it by personal choice) or have an antiquated harem-ish fantasy about them and the men are all bearded terrorists when the reality is of course very different espeacially in Egypt. I am not veiled (by choice) , work as a freelance journalist and am in Law school. stereotypes are ridiculous as a measure of character and I understand your annoyance perfectly
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May 24th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Great article.
I am a mixed bag what with hints of English, German, and Scandanavian. However, my paternal grandfather was full blooded Italian, making my father half and my younger brother and I a fourth. Anyway, I always have identified myself as Italian. So, not surprisingly, I’ve been asked quite a few times “what is it like being connected with the mafia?” I always give a smile and reply “Well, I wouldn’t know because I’m NOT connected to the mafia.” and that usually surprises the individual because apparently, non-Italians assume that EVERY SINGLE PERSON from Italy is in some form involved with that organization.
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May 24th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
My nationality is American, but my ethnicity is half-Caucasian, from my mother, and half-African American, from my dad.
For some reason, because of my skin color, they expect me to be inarticulate, uneducated, and ‘gangster’. Oh, and have a big butt and jump high.
I do speech and debate, I read for fun *gasp*, I do track and field (and I don’t do a jumping event), I hate basketball, and I’m frequently asked if my mother adopted me.
I’m okay if a good friend who actually knows me asks it, but a total stranger asking it is not okay.
And I can’t dance. People need to stop asking and get over it.
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May 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Fantastic article. I enjoyed it a lot. It reveals so many truths in this country revolving around stereotypes and separating people into boxes.
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May 24th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Interestingly, I know Izhevsk because my 1954 SKS was made there.
I am half-Polish and half-Irish, and a first-generation American. Plenty of stereotypes – some of them true.
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May 24th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
It’s human nature to categorize.
What I don’t understand is, why be offended when people are simply interested in someone else’s background? I’m a little offended that the author thinks Americans want all immigrants to have a sob story.
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May 24th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
First of all; I love your blog. It’s so bright and colourful and it always makes me happy.
Now, the question.
I live in Sweden, I was born here and have always lived here. My parents are also born here, but yet I’m not considered swedish. My dads ancestors were from Moscow, so I guess I’m part russian. On my mothers side I have one russian ancestor and then the rest is Sami. The sami part is the reason I don’t count as swedish. I don’t know if you know about them, but they are a nomadic people native to teh very north of scandinavia and russia. It’s been consideed shameful for houndreds of years to be sami, even today we are looked at as a lesser race. We are supposed to be lazy, manipulative, greedy and just plain wierd. I grew up way up in the northern mountains, and there it is a big social clash between sami people and ethnic swedes, not even my dad (who has a child with one) thinks highly about them. A year ago I moved to Stockholm, and there I was faced with the most bizarre ideas about my heritage. Everyone seem to think that I do live in a tent in the snow, that I herd reindeers and that I can sing in their typical way. They all look so disappointed when I tell them I’ve been brought up as a swede because it’s shameful to do sami things where I come from. I also look kind of different, mostly described as an exotic looking blonde. From my sami heritage I have slanted eyes and high cheekbones, plus a flat profile. From my dads side I have full lips and a small straight nose. All my mums family have dark hair and almost black eyes so you can somewhat tell what their ancestry is but I have a lack of pigments and therefor I’m really pale and have pale, silvery hair. Anyway, I’m not ashamed of who I am, and where my ancestors came from, I’m hapy to be a sami/russian mix but I sometimes wish people would regard me as swedish because it’s in that culture I’ve grown up for most of the time.
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May 24th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I was born in England and lived there until I was six,I then moved to the US.
Whenever I meet someone for the first time they all ask me the same questions.They ask me if Im from london,if I know the queen,if I know their obscure relative that lives nowhere near my hometown,and if I have afternoon tea.I have to go through this whole speech explaining that I did not,infact,live anywhere near london,I do not know the queen,and that I have no clue who their relative is.Although sometimes I enjoy messing with them and telling them something along the lines of “Why yes,queenie and I are great friends.”
People also tend to think that Im very stuck up once they hear me speak because they view my accent as “proper”.
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May 24th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I’m mostly Polish, so we all know the stereotype there! I don’t get asked my ethnicity very often though so I never feel the need to explain.
I hate to say it, but my experiences with Russian girls here HAS been a great big stereotype. They were all gold diggers, either searching for a rich man, or already married to a rich man and “working” (which meant frequent 1/2 hour coffee breaks) to stave off the boredom. Hell, one woman was still married but engaged to a rich man twice her age at the same time!
I’m surprised New Yorkers aren’t used to more of the whole melting pot thing. I don’t think there are 2 people in NY who have the same story.
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May 25th, 2009 at 3:24 am
My dad is German and Italian and my mother is Native American but everyone always thinks I’m Irish because I have blue eyes and color my hair red. I don’t get offended when people ask what I am, but it’s rude if they’re asking just so they can quiz me to see if any of the stereotypes apply to me. I’m most proud of my Native American heritage even though I don’t look like it. It really pisses me off when people assume that we all live in tee pees, gamble, drink, smoke, go to a medicine man instead of a doctor and make things out of feathers and beads for a living (I swear I’ve been asked all of these). I drink occasionally but the rest of the list doesn’t apply to me.
My boyfriend is filipino and some of the comments left on here by others Asians have definitely shed some light on what our child will have to go through.
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May 25th, 2009 at 10:19 am
i am pretty much half-Irish and half-Italian (Sicilian, to be specific). i say “pretty much” because i am a slight bit Lithuanian, but many people don’t even know what Lithuania is :/
being both Irish AND Sicilian, one must expect me to have some sort of horrendous temper. however, i am unusually level-headed and NEVER get raging mad.
i don’t face racial discrimination because i don’t really look like i’m Irish nor Sicilian. most people expect me to be russian, swedish, german, or generally east-european. however, because i have this sort of doll-like adorable face (not trying to be vain here, it’s just what i’ve been told and what i’m aware of!), i need to sort of work to be taken seriously. since people don’t see me as threatening at all, it can be difficult if i have a problem with somebody to be truly understood.
many people have told me that i look like Allison Harvard from ANTM (see: http://community.livejournal.com/alliharvardfans/3938.html#cutid1 ), if this helps people understand where i’m coming from with the whole “looks adorable, can’t intimidate” thing. not that i want to be perpetually intimidating…just sometimes, when i need to stick up for myself ;)
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May 25th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I was born & grew up in Sweden but moved to the Scotland 1994.
So I consider myself Swedish first & foremost but also adopted Scots.
When I first moved to the UK, I did experience quite a lot of peoples stereotypical opinions of Swedes i.e. blonde, slim, blue eyed, nymphomaniacs that are introverted unless inebriated & IKEA loving socialists.
I’m married to a Scotsman & we live in London.
Because I speak English with a Scottish accent most people naturally assume that’s where I’m originally from & when I tell them that I am in fact Swedish I usually get a vacuous look of bewilderment and a “Really but surely you’ve lived here all your life, eh?” in response.
As a consequence I do get quite a lot of the Scottish stereotypes in the neck i.e . ginger, rotund (from eating too many deep fried Mars bars), perpetually pissed, penny pinching (short arms & deep pockets) & hates the English.
Some of these “labels” could obviously apply to individuals and indeed myself now and again but I’ve never been a fan of tarring everyone with the same brush, it’s just lazy & intrinsically obtuse.
Unfortunately a lot of people like pigeonholing so I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for this sort of behaviour to die away cause it just won’t.
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May 25th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
I’m half korean, half german, and I look asian for sure and a lot of people ask me if I’m from China, do I cook rice all day etc etc. I even get people in chinese take out restaurants asking me questions.
My korean side of the family often says I’m too american, and part of my german side of the family is racist. I don’t look EXTREMELY korean, but korean enough and my coworkers refer to me as “the asian girl”. “Oh you mean the asian girl that works here?” Or “Hey there asian princess”. People constantly call me asian this, asian that, but I love outdoors and hiking, I wrestled in high school as the only girl, I ride horses and all kinds of things that most asian stereotypes supposedly don’t like. I don’t consider myself anything but ME.
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May 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
That was a wonderful essay, thank you for sharing it!
Well…my ethnicity is a true mixture. People ask me if I’m part Asian all the time, which is odd considering that’s one of the few ethnicities I don’t believe is a part of my DNA.
My father’s paternal side is of English and Scottish descent. His maternal side is Ukrainian and Czech. Part of that line is descendant of Cossacks, something I didn’t believe until I saw family photos after my grandmother passed. Makes sense considering her maiden name was Kozak.
My mother’s side is also a bit varied. While she does have the English and Scottish on the maternal side, we also get Native American (Choctaw), African and Irish. Her paternal side, pure German. I can trace it down to the travel documents from their boat ride over from Germany…all 17 of them (mother, father, 15 children.)
I get lumped in to all kinds of stereotypes, mostly because of places I lived and went to school. When we moved from Louisiana to Indiana, I was thrown in to remedial classes just because of where I moved from – they paid no attention to the fact I was in gifted classes in Louisiana OR the fact I was at a private school for the gifted in Hawai’i prior to that. We moved around a lot because my father was in the military. I would run in to whatever stereotypes were rampant in the new state I lived in. I caught a lot of hell for being a “military brat.” I also was looked down upon because I had multi-coloured hair and my nose was pierced. Must’ve meant I was a delinquent! lol
The ONLY place I didn’t run in to stereotypes was Hawai’i. As an adult I am more appreciative of our two tours in that lovely state and all the friends/family I met while there. While they are often stereotyped as being closed minded toward “outsiders,” I haven’t found more loving and accepting people in my life.
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May 27th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I’m Iranian… so yeah! There are millions of stereotypes about the way we look, what we wear, being a muslim, etc. In Canada people have a “Middle-Eastern” look that includes big noses & dark skin, and we HAVE to wear the Hijab, which is not true for most of Iranians in North America including myself. At first People ask me with a smile if I’m from a Mediterranean or Eastern European country (e.g. Italy, Greece, Romania, etc). WHen I tell them where I’m from their eyes widen with fear & disbelief. They ask me ” oh really? you are purely Iranian? Why are you not wearing the Hijab?”. Then they automatically assume I’m a Muslim & Arab, because apparantly in their mind there are no other ethnicity in that region. Plus they think my dad is a perve with 10 wives and I must have 50+ sibling. Plus my mom should be illiterate or & is an obedient wife. They are suprised to hear that my dad married ONLY 1 woman and they “dated” & “fell in love” before they got married, or that my mom holds a bachlor degree.
They think we ride camels back home, and Iran is a desert. When I tell them I went skiing in Iran they nearly pass out :)
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May 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
I’ve been reading for a while but haven’t commented until now.
I’m half Japanese, half white. People often mistake me for Hispanic. I’ve had people talk to me in Spanish before (or, conversely, admonish me for not knowing “my” language, and what kind of mother doesn’t teach her child her native language?!) I speak Japanese very well, without an accent, but with a rather limited, child-like vocabulary because I grew up in America and when my Japanese education grew to be too stressful to keep up with while I was going to American schools, it got cut out. I’m okay with that.
I don’t get too many weird stereotypes, probably because people aren’t aware that I’m half-Japanese. For those people who do know, I usually am asked 2 things, without fail: Do you speak Japanese? and Have you ever been to Japan? (Yes, yes.) “Oh, you must be really smart, then.”
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May 27th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Being Cherokee, a lot of people have come up to me and asked me if I dance around in the woods or smoke a peace pipe. Maybe it’s from living in a small southern town, I’m not sure but I’m rather proud of my roots. It’s not so much as a stereotype as much as some of the acceptable racism I see around my school during spirit week. They put dead indians on the walls, with arrows in their heads and chests. Maybe it was the years of my mother telling me bedtime stories of how things used to be, but I always get an uneasy feeling about it. I mean, they claim it’s in the name of ’sportsmanship’ but honestly, using a ethnicity for that kind of thing is just wrong, in any case. (most likely why i dont like sports)
What was worse is when I say to someone how uncomfortable it makes me, they tell me I’m being too sensitive.
Yep, because seeing a generalized representation of my people isnt tramatizing or distrubing in ANY way. Pfft.
Though to everyone’s credit atleast they arent calling me a barbarian or a redskin or crap like that.
I’m also Sicillian (it’s about fifty fifty) and when people find THAT out, they think my Dad is in the Mob, which I just always found funny. He’s a military man, and always will be. : )
Sillys, just plain sillys I suppose.
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May 28th, 2009 at 2:12 am
I am mostly Russian, residing in Sydney, Australia, and I agree with everything in this post. NY or Sydney, it’s the same. Well done on eloquently articulating something so sensitive.
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May 28th, 2009 at 2:19 am
The only thing is that sometimes you can answer ‘Russia’ when asked where you’re from because it’s easier than explaining that you’re from the border of Russia and Ukraine, from the Ukrainian side, but you’re not actually Ukrainian, in fact Ukrainians wanted you out despite you being born there. Your mother is from Russia but isn’t recognised as fully Russian because of mixed blood, and you’ve never lived in Russia but don’t speak Ukrainian or know Ukrainian culture and were brought up on everything Russian, blah blah etc etc.
Sometimes it’s just easier to say Russia. Especially because that’s the country and culture you identify with (thanks to the Soviet blender and your parents/grandparents moving from actual Russian cities), despite being born in a neighbouring country.
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May 28th, 2009 at 9:49 am
I get loads of piss taking and weird look when people find out that behind the perfect british accent and blue eyes I am partly mixed race. I’ve learnt to say “I just do” when people ask me why I have such pale skin and my at first sight brown hair is a shiny red when you see it in sunlight, rather than telling the listener its because I’m part Russian. My mother is british, but when her great grandparents moved to england they married other russians and poles once they were here so she looks and really is though her parents are born and bred british, Russian. So I, half of her look quite Russian and I don;t get what peoples problem is making fun of me when they find out the reason I look Russian is because I 1/4 am!
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May 29th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
I’m Northern Irish and consider myself to be Northern Irish before considering myself either British or Irish. One of the main problems I have is either being called a Paddy or having people who don’t know anything about the volatile political situation of my home say, ‘Oh yeah, Brits out!’ Often people assume I am violent, a bigot or a criminal as well as stupid and a hard drinker.
I also find I am asked whether I am a protestant or a catholic, a question which would rightly considered to be very rude if anyone of another nationality was asked.
On the flip side, most people in Northern Ireland think I’m foreign. I’ve been told to go back to Poland/Russia four times in the past twelve months. I’ve told these people to go somewhere entirely different, I’m afraid to say ;).
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June 21st, 2009 at 4:27 am
I never realised the amount of stereotypes forced upon Russians. I think though that’s mainly because I have never even meant a Russian in my area. I suppose though in every culture it is a given to find utterly idiotic stereotypes and it isn’t something easily escaped.
I’m half German myself. You can imagine the horrendous comments I have gotten, from my own friends no less, who trivialise the seriousness of being a Nazi! I makes me red in the face with anger that people can acuse others of the most horrendous things with such humour knowing it’s completely untrue just for a laugh. It just makes me think “You want to be that trivial. Fine. But don’t forget the millions of people that died because of their own ethinicity and beliefs. Be ignorant.”
I’m also half English though and not once have I ever gotten a comment positive or negative about that. I hate that it’s so ingrained into our culture to look at the negative.
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June 30th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
I am mixed. My mother is from Trinidad and my dad was born in the US. From my mothers side I get African, Indian, and Native American heritage. From my dad I get polish, I think German, and French. When people ask me race I am I seriously have no clue what to tell them besides saying I am mixed. Then when they try to pry further into what race I am I always tell them that I don’t know to make them shut up. Well when I say that they look at me like I’m weird and say “OMG! How do you not know what race you are?” So I try to avoid the question as much as possible. As for Stereotypes, when I was in school I told the class what my racial background was and I got almost every stereotype on the ethnicities on my mothers side. I just don’t see how my ethnicity matters?
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July 6th, 2009 at 11:39 am
As a bi-racial girl growing up in a typical one race world I can relate to this article. However, everyone seems to think that I am the product of a mail order bride situation, and that since I am half Laotian (which MUST be Chinese or Japanese) that I must be really great at math and LOVE to clean. People, and I don’t mean just men I mean people, tend to think that I must be a freak in bed. Honestly I try to shrug off a lot of the stereotypes, but it gets really old when I constantly get harassed by guys in big groups simply because I look Asian (mind you they don’t know where Laos is if they’ve ever heard of it)and therefore must be great in bed. My father and mother met while she was working at a grocery store, he didn’t order from some seedy catalog, and he didn’t sneak her into the country when he finished his tour in Vietnam. My father is a white man who married an asian woman, and apparently in many people’s eyes that means he has a fetish. Has anyone ever stopped to consider that yes he was attracted to her, but the fact of the matter is although a woman can be beautiful you marry her personality just as much as her body.
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July 7th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I’m Polish, but I’ve never really experienced any ethnic stereotyping. Maybe the occasional comment on polish food or somthing. I’m from Texas, so I guess that’s probably why since there aren’t that many Polish people there. People always thought it was really cool that I’m Polish, but that was as far as it went. I live in L.A. now and I still haven’t experienced much stereotyping. Once, this guy asked me what my religion was and I said Catholic and he laughed, saying that a Polish girl named Maria had to be Catholic, which is pretty much true. Anyway, I actually get more stereotyped here in L.A. for being from Texas. I get comments like: “but you don’t really have an accent,” and “so, you must be a big fan of Bush, huh?” and “so does everyone walk around in cowboy hats and boots?” But I don’t mind. Because Texas is where it’s at! ;)
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July 25th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
My mom’s Chinese, and my dad’s Canadian. Stereotypes come as mixed in our house. We laugh at Chinese stereotypes, like being good at math and being bad drivers, because most of these stereotypes have a little truth to them. Mom’s not a bad driver, but she parks with half the wheels on the curb!
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August 2nd, 2009 at 4:00 am
I’m -as far as I know- 100% French, with a totally french name. But since I live in Paris, wherever I go or work, people assume I am from Eastern Europe, or Kabylian. It just seem impossible to them that I’m French.
The cliché about Eastern Europe girls is very strong. It goes from people innocently asking “Are you Polish ?.. I thought you were because you’re blond and pale”, creepy guys on the streets starving for cheap sex “You’re one of those Eastern girls huh ? Polish or Russian. How much is it ?”, or even worst, getting arrested for i.d control and having cops insisting on the fact you are Polish even while showing them your passport.
I don’t get it.
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August 14th, 2009 at 3:22 am
On my father’s side, I am British, Scottish, Welsh, German and Dutch. But otherwise, all-American. While once immigrants, his side of the family have now been living here for generations. The big deal in our family is that we’re related to Roosevelts – my great-grandmother’s maiden name was Roosevelt.
On my mother’s side, I am Swedish, and that only. My mom is very proud of the fact that I am mostly Swedish, since I am half Swedish, while everything on my dad’s side goes into the tenths and sixteenths. It’s a little odd, because people never expect the Swedish part – I am short, on the chubby side, and freckled, with an affinity for doodling and bright colors, not the statuesque blonde, blue-eyed girl they expect. Even my mother went through this when she came here at 18, for she was slender, with short light brown hair and hazel eyes. It got to the point where people didn’t even believe she was from Sweden, as her English was so good until she started speaking Swedish for them – even then they were a little doubtful.
It’s funny how here, at home in the United States, I will often have moments where I feel my roots. However when I’m in Sweden, I feel completely and utterly American. Except for the time when my Morfar (grandfather, fyi) told me my voice sounded like my mother’s, and when my Aunt Birgitta told me I had my mormor’s (grandmother) eyes, I am always told I look my father, and that I look very American. I guess I just stand out against my Swedish cousins; two are blonde haired and blue eyed, while the other has black hair and green eyes (they are utterly adorable). But I’m sure all of that is not as bad as being considered a mail order bride, Miss Doe.
One a final note, I remember we were going over ancestry in class, and I mentioned I was half Swedish. A girl said “Swedish?” and I said, “Yeah… y’know, Scandinavia?”. She replied “Wow, you’re Scandinavian too?”
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September 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Yep, Russian here. No accent. I miss it alot. The old life, the old Russia, Happy Days, I call it. No more, not really happy anyway.
Onto the question, to Americans, Russians are dirty communist pigs. Yep, I was called a commie in kindergarten almost every single day by the same boy, it wasn’t fun. People here in the South still think that internally about me, I’m so liberal-crazy to them, what with my Obama supporting, Micheal Moore-loving, Bush-bashing ways. Still, I said that the Americans didn’t save Russia from Communism, they only collapsed the country! The late Soviet Era was a time of prosperity and peace, with less restraint on religion, jobs, etc. It’s a hell-hole now, a recovering one, but a hole nonetheless.
I was also thought of as a retard when I first moved, since I couldn’t speak English or was too shy to come out of my corner in the classroom.
As for race, to me, Asians are the coolest thing, especially Japanese. They are so happy, so cute, have the most impeccable style, they never age. X3
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September 20th, 2009 at 6:08 am
I was directed, under penalty of death, to read this blog, by my best friend Jill. She was raving about it for a half hour. So, right when I got home I got on here, it’s now 3 am in LA and I have been on here since 12 am. I am entranced and intrigued. Your view on the world is so interesting and bizarre, I admire your creativity, since I myself am a realist. I loved this article you chose to share, I have never been to New York, so I cant quite imagine the stereotypes one may endure. Here in LA I feel so comfortable with my race because it has so little meaning to me, I was brought up to be tolerant and excepting. Just because I was Italian, Irish and Norwegian didn’t make me any different, better or worse, than the people around me, who, in my neighborhood, are Mexican and Filipino. I still find the idea of racism increasingly odd. I think stereotypes are ridiculous, though I will admit I find some very humorous. I think Russian woman are stunning, though I have never met anyone Russian, or even just with Russian in their blood. I find them striking, you yourself Xena are, to my eyes, intriguing looking, beautiful really. I very much enjoyed this article, a way fro me to see how life is in New York for a Russian girl, something I had never previously thought of. Thank you for sharing.
-Kellie
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October 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Hello, seeing as most [all] of the people posting here are women, I’ll start with a quick explanation of why I am here. Nothing deep, I was simply looking for information on mail order etiquette and thought the description of the article in google looked interesting.
I am Latin, and in College I dated a girl from Moldova. True, she was tall (taller than me), beautiful, and very intelligent. Everybody insisted that she just wanted her green card and often compared (called) her a Russian mail order bride. These were not friends of mine so I didn’t pay attention to them. She had plenty of guys to chose from and had she simply wanted a green card and an “American” life, she probably would have chosen other wise as well as someone a little taller. Besides, her parents had more than enough money to sent her to college in the states. I was simply smart, honest, charming, and I assume attractive to her. For the most part we ignored the ignorant people, sometimes even joking about her being a spy or something of that sort. In the end we merely took different paths, but last I heard she’s doing fine, and still in America on her own merit.
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October 18th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
SEE! I KNEW it meant Grandmother! People have argued this with me but i learned the meaning of babushka from reading books like Thundercake, Pink and Say and Chicken Sundays by a Russian author whose name I forgot.
WOW! I can’t believe i skipped this blog entry when it came out! I can’t believe Xenia is not your real name. I suppose i thought that it was said the same and just written in cyrillic differently. Okay Ksenia I must correct you, there IS more than one part of Russia There are many parts you even list one: The Ural region. Every country has different parts. I don’t see why it upsets you when people ask what part.
What ethnicity am I? I’m 1/4 Irish, 1/4 Italian and 1/8 of the following: Dutch, German, Scottish and French.
As far as steriotypes of these ethnicities well they’re all pretty true and I find that amusing. The only thing is that during my moms lifetime nobody in her family owned clogs, and I’ve no idea if anyone grew tulips lol.
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February 4th, 2010 at 12:41 am
I live in Australia, but was born in New Zealand. I consider myself an Australian as I’ve been here for most of my life. Because of the friendly competition/war between the close countries, when it is mentioned that I was born in New Zealand, all the jokes start coming it. My husband calls me a ‘Dirty Kiwi!’. It’s all in good humour. But it’s hilarious that while I think of myself as Australian and a Kiwi only in birth, that I still get that label pinned to my head.
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