Fri 24 Oct 2008

I’m horrible at writing and getting thoughts out, so I really really hope this isn’t too much of a jumbled mess (or annoyingly whiny hehe) to you. I’d like your opinion on something or any input you may have, please.
I’ve been in a long distance relationship for a while (2-3 years) and, around last Christmas, decided that I’d like to put an end to that and be closer to my love. I am 19, almost 20, and my boyfriend is the same age. I ran the idea by him and, of course, he loved it… but no one else has.
He’s currently sharing an apartment with his brother, and his brother is fine with me being there. My family on the other hand… well… My parents, who I’m still living with and rely on pretty heavily while here, went quite mental when I told them that I’d like to move. They yelled, screamed, insulted, and took away various things in the next few days. If I move, they want just about nothing to do with me, and, as nutters as they are, I want to keep a relationship with them. Also, me relying on them leaves me with the situation of getting moved; I’ve no vehicle of my own, so they’re my wheels. They hold both over my head and taunt me like crazy with it. I understand some reasons that they worry about me going and such, but the way they go about everything seems cruel, childish, and it just _hurts_.
I’ve been working on getting a GED to get into a college. My parents seem to think that me moving in with my boyfriend will make me give up when, really, my boyfriend, his brother, and even a friend of his have all said that they would help me study, and they, along with more of his family and friends, keep encouraging me to do better. My parents have also said that two unwed people living together goes against their beliefs (even though they lived together before getting married), and I truly believe that they have a problem with my love being Mexican.
If your family were to try to make you choose them or the one you love plus your freedom and happiness, how would you handle it? What ideas do you have for moving when you’ve no vehicle of your own?
Where’s the Superman for clueless girls? haha
J
Dear J,
I feel for you. No one, and especially not your parents, should ever make you chose between them and someone you love. Your parents are being overprotective because they are afraid you will fail. They fear you’ll go out there, get caught up in the mundane survival and never get your GED. They would never be able to forgive themselves for letting that happen, so they make any excuse & pull any strings they can to keep you from going.
Whether they are right or not is irrelevant. You – and everybody else – has the right to fail. One of my favorite quotes by F. Scott Fitzgerald is “never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat”. As long as we learn from past mistakes and aim do better next time, we are not failures.
Seeing how you are almost 20 years old, you should be able to make decisions for yourself. If it involves a somewhat risky move, then be it. You see, when I was 20, I was in a very similar situation. My long-distance boyfriend from California and I had finally decided to be geographically together. We almost ended up moving to L.A. but in the end chose New York, because my mother graciously offered Mark to stay with us until he found a job. I am extremely grateful to my mom for being so awesome about that. However, aside from that initial favor, we made the move happen on our own, without any parental help.
Yes, moving won’t be easy, but it can be done! Here are a few suggestions how you can make it go smoother.
- Get a job and save money
You know how you said your parents are your wheels? Well, money will give you the independence you need. Get a job – any job, don’t worry about liking it because you’ll be moving in a few months anyway! – and start saving money. Once you have some cash saved, you’ll be able to rent a van or even a moving truck to move all your stuff. Mark and I had worked our butts off for a few months before the big move: he, at dry cleaner’s and Starbucks; me, I walked dogs and did catering. The $3,000 we had saved between the two of us had helped tremendously along the line.
In addition, holding a job for a few months will make your parents see you are taking a serious approach. It will also give them some time to adjust to the change that’s coming.
- Minimize your possessions!
This means sell everything you can. Announce a garage sale, give deals to your friends and sell stuff on eBay. Not only will you be getting rid of a lot of junk, you’ll also be making some very much needed cash.
- Be prepared to start from scratch
You may be giving up certain luxuries of living at home, but trust me, freedom is well worth it! So what if you have to wash your own dishes because you don’t have a dishwasher? When we moved into our first apartment, we took a lot of donations from friends – dishes, silverware, furniture. We bought our own kitchen table and bed with the money we’d saved (I still remember, the bed was $129 at JC Penny, which seemed like a lot at the time; we still have it!!!).
- Get a part-time job as soon as you move
Part-time because I’m assuming you’ll be taking classes. Real freedom comes with earning your own money; besides, pulling your own weight is a key to a lasting relationship. Make an effort not to rely on your boyfriend financially too much – otherwise you’re just trading depending from your parents to being dependent on your boyfriend!
- Talk to your parents
I know you said they weren’t very good at talking. Still, be the mature one. Tell them you love them very much and appreciate everything they’ve done for you. That you aren’t doing this to spite them – you simply want to start a life of your own. Tell them you’re fully aware of the consequences and the possibility of failure, but aren’t afraid and will take the responsibility. Tell them you understand they disapprove of your choice in boyfriend but you love him very much and hope to marry him one day (ok, this may or may not be the case, but marriage seems important to your parents, so reassuring them may not be a bad idea). Make them understand that you no longer expect them to support you financially; ask for moral support only.
This should make your parents see you are an adult making an adult decision. Even if it doesn’t and your parents are still mad at you, give them some time to process the information. I sincerely believe that a loving parent, no matter how angry at the moment, will eventually forgive their child. Once they see that you are happy and doing well for yourself, they will come around. They might even change their mind about your boyfriend once they get to know him and find out what a good guy he is. :)
Good luck and remember: you have the right to make your own mistakes. Now go out there and live your life!
Success is often achieved by those who don’t know that failure is inevitable. – Coco Chanel
I am glad I paid so little attention to good advice; had I abided by it I might have been saved from some of my most valuable mistakes. – Edna St. Vincent Millay
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October 24th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
She’s stylish, talented, fabulous, AND she gives great advice?!
Doe… you rock!
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October 24th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
I went through a similar situation as well a few years ago. Things are much better now, but I lost my relationship with my parents due to all of the drama. I wish I had sites like yours and Gala Darling’s around when I was going through the majority of that drama. :)
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October 24th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Only one thought — how old do you have to be to rent a vehicle? I thought it was like 23 or 25… I can’t remember. She may have to have someone older sign off on the rental. This is really the only potential problem I see with your advice. :) hehe.
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October 24th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
aww poor J!
I know what this is like also, to have to choose between two very important things. Do your best to include your parents in your decision, without relying on them.
and Doe, you’re advice should be written up and published! you’re like so calmly genius speaking here. :]
<33 mermaid
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October 24th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I think in this situation it is very important that the girl become autonomous. Do NOT move in with your boyfriend without having personal income. As close as you are, there is sadly no guarantee that the relationship will survive, and unlike your parents, your boyfriend might not feel the obligation to support you financially.
Also, if you move out and your parents essentially disown you, realize that it will likely be very difficult to get loans for college without their assistance.
I’m definitely not trying to discourage from moving out, but I’ve seen the same situation go sadly awry one too many times to not have concern about it. I think as long as all bases are covered, you should be fine, but don’t assume that anything will be taken care of for you by your boyfriend and his family. And with that, good luck!
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October 24th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I just wanted to thank you for posting this, Doe. While it’s not exact to my situation (of course), it did resonate with me on certain points. So thanks for the inadvertent advice! ^_~
Best of luck to J, and thanks again, Doe!
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October 24th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
♣ Dana
Very true. I was able to do it because me and my boyfriend were exactly 21 at the time of the move. I guess it’s just all the more reason to work for a year and save up.
♣ Erin
You have a point about being completely independent, but sometimes it’s nearly impossible to afford a living on your own, especially when you’re just starting out. I think, as long as both parties share equal responsibilities, no one is dependent on anyone in a bad way.
It’s true that sometimes situations go horribly awry. Most people are paralyzed by fear of failure and never attempt anything for that reason. You can’t let that happen to you though, ever!
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October 24th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
OMG. You have no idea how well-timed this was. Thank you, love! <3
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October 24th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
i moved in with my ex when i was 18. i continued to go to school, & am almost done, but i think that depending on him resulted in me losing my identity & postponing a breakup that should’ve happened a long time before it did.
don’t move out until you can afford it on your own. but, if you do move, don’t let your decision keep you there if you don’t think you should be!
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October 24th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
oh yeah, & the whole sharing an apartment with his brother thing is a HORRIBLE idea. roommate relations can quickly deteriorate over some petty shit, & if the brother suddenly decides he is mad at you over something, you not only have a roommate relations problem, but a relationship problem and a family problem. keep that in mind!
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October 24th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Excellent advice!
Be sure to discuss all of this with your boyfriend. Just to make sure you are both on the same page!
I would also be sure to iron out a budget before you move, so you have an idea of how much to save and how much you’ll need to make once you’ved moved.
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October 24th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I just wanted to add a comment for the person who had written this article. My family reacted the same way to the boyfriend I am currently living with. Keeping the story somewhat short, they were also afraid of me messing up. They yelled, threatened, and eventually packed up my belongings and kicked me out just to prove a point.
Only a year later, that boy and I live together in an absolutely fabulous apartment. The boy (who was working at a sandwich shop when I met him), is working for the most prestigious company in this half of the state and just received a huge raise. Things are going so well that I was able to take a part time job and focus on graduating from college early and pursuing my costuming hobby on the side. My parents and I are closer than ever, and they love him now as their own son.
Like Doe said, parents are scared to give their children freedom. They are worried you’ll make mistakes like they did. You will. Everyone makes mistakes! But if your family is really that worried about you, they will be there for you no matter what they may say.
Just follow your heart! If you honestly feel that it would be best for you to move in with him, then by all means you should. :)
Good luck! <3
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October 25th, 2008 at 7:01 am
I left home when I was 17 because I couldn’t stand to live in my parents house any longer, and I turned out fine.
Even if things are difficult, you will always find some way to survive.
It is definitely true, that having any job to gain independence is better than being supported by your parents, who may abuse their power over you by threatening to take away their support.
Now I have a boyfriend, and we’re supporting each other, my life is at it’s best. I still have my own independence, and I’ve been able to afford to propel myself into higher education.
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October 25th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Good advice Doe, but I just want to add a bit.
I moved in with my ex when I was 18. He had a job and I didn’t as I went to university full time. It was good in the beginning, but since I wasn’t really contributing anything financially, things started to go bad really fast. We broke up 6 months later.
Moral of the story: it is a very good idea to get a part time job first so you can help him out a bit. Even if you’re only able to pay for groceries or gas for example. A little goes a long way.
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October 26th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Thanks to the people that offered more advice, kind words, and their own experiences. Definitely a major thanks to Doe for her helpful words that managed to help more than me. <3
For worries of me expecting my love to take care of me or letting him do so; I don’t plan on that. I’d very much like to be able to hold my own, for the most part, so getting a job and paying for my personal things as well as helping with rent and such was always in mind.
I’m glad that people think of things like that, though. :]
I’ve thought about possible situations that could come up with his brother, and I believe we can all be mature and work things out.. even if it comes to me moving somewhere else. I plan on talking with his brother and asking him to come to me if he ever has any kind of issue that concerns me, because I don’t want things to get pushed back and built up into something that could have been avoided.
If things do go wrong, then at least I can be proud and say that I tried my best.
@the loan bit from Erin: I should probably have concerns about that, but, honestly, I don’t. My parents weren’t going to be helping me with college things anyways. :x
and @what Rachel said about waiting until I can afford it on my own: That could take my whole life. haha. I really don’t know many people that can support themselves alone. Actually, the only person I can think of is one of my brothers that has worked his way up in the Air Force.
It’s a nice thought and good idea, but I feel it’s something that would take far longer than I want.
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October 26th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Jessi, regarding the college situation- until you are 23, you need your parents info, tax documents and socials, for ANY financial aid- not just loans. If you think you wont need loans let me just tell you this- I am putting myself through college without my parents money- I have two large scholarships, a job, and two loans. And I still hardly have money to spare. Without financial aid there is no way I could afford college. and without my parents help, there is no way I would have qualified for Financial aid.
Under the law regarding aid- you cannot be labeled as ‘independent’ until you turn 23/your parents die/or you have emancipation- which is a lengthy and pricey legal process that often doesn’t help anyway. Till then, you need their signatures and info. I highly doubt that they wouldn’t give you this info- they clearly care about you and want you to get an education.
I have been living with my fiance since I was 16 about 30 miles away from my parents. Fortunately I am still close to my parents and they have been helpful in giving me their info/signatures for Financial aid. If we weren’t on good terms, or they didn’t give me that info. I would NOT be able to attend college.
So think long and hard about your long term goals in life before you cut any ties you might regret. I understand where you are coming from- and when I put myself in your shoes I understand your desire to take a chance. But I think you need to do your best to make this an amicable separation from your parents. They took care of you your entire life, you owe them kindness of respecting their love for you and the hopes you will get at least your GED.
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October 28th, 2008 at 10:22 am
♣ Jessi
That’s my girl! You sound like you are mature enough and have it figured out on your own. We all wish you the best of luck in your move! xoxo
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January 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 pm
This is VERY similar to my life. Except my boyfriend is Puerto Rican, just two years older, and my parents don’t know about him. I plan to finish college before either of us try to reach the other. We both have our financial problems. Dependency and disability being the knives in my chest.
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May 1st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Such a helpful article Doe! *bookmarks*
I’m 17 and live with my parents, and desperately want a place of my own. Though I have a bit of an ironic situation going on – I would love to get a job so I can move to a nearby city, but I live in such a rural area that there are no part-time jobs for students (like me) that aren’t at least an hour’s drive away. Annoying! Though I have to say, selling things on Ebay truly pays off in the long-term.
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