Mon 6 Apr 2009
Who Wants To Be A Milliner?
Category: Spotlight

Topsy Turvy Design
A milliner is not someone with a lot of money. It’s someone who makes hats. This forgotten profession rarely lives outside of theater today, which is why it was so exciting to run into Kim Brown-Dye in the vast spaces of the internet. A self-described enthusiast of the past, Kim is the creative mastermind behind Topsy Turvy Design, a small company in Oakland, CA. What she makes, Kim lovingly calls hatties.
Kim, it’s a real pleasure chatting with you. Tell us something interesting about your childhood.
KBD: Growing up, my parents were hippies, so my brother & I had an extremely crafty & progressive upbringing. Most nights & weekends were spent crafting. My mom would crazy quilt, my brother would draw cartoons, and I would make papier-mâché masks & hand-sew tarty little costumes… Bored-with hand sewing, I convinced my mom to teach me how to machine sew on her 1920’s straight-stitch-only Singer at the age of 9. My first project was a replica of the bow-bedecked hat from Madonna’s Borderline video.

Victorian mini tricorn
When did you become interested in historical fashions?
I have always been history obsessed & a bit of an old soul. Growing up in the town of Alameda, CA, I was surrounded by phenomenal architecture. It is rumored that Alameda has more Victorian houses per square foot than any city in the USA. I would often ride my bike past my favorite houses & imagine the grand ladies that used to live there…
My interest in historical fashions really peaked from the ages of 9-14; when I grew enamored with old Hollywood glamour & further obsessed with the Victorian Era. During my high school years, I would incorporate these obsessions into my everyday apparel. I always loved dressing up & the Goth subculture provided an excellent outlet to do so.

Rhinestone top hattie
Why hats?
I went to college for Theatrical Design. I remember being floored that it was an actual college degree. I focused primarily on mask & puppetry design – my first loves. I always adored costume design, but didn’t have the patience for sewing. I found myself wanting to fast forward to the trimming & bedazzling part.
During a post-college internship, I was asked to build hats for a theatrical production of Amadeus. I had to build 3 hats in less than a week. I taught myself the craft through a fabulous book called From the Neck Up by Denise Dreher & I fell head over heels in love. In 2007 Topsy Turvy Design was born.
What does your work space look like?
This is it:

Kim & her beautiful craft space
I’d love it if you let us in on your creative process. How do you do it, what are your favorite materials to work with?
All my hatties are built completely from scratch. I use olde-world buckram & wire construction to build the frameworks, which does limit the possible shapes or silhouettes, but the decorative aspect is infinite… The ideas for my hatties are often born from the materials themselves or inspired by my fabulous customers, models & muses. I love vintage ribbons, trimmings & feathers & use the real deal whenever possible. I also have an extensive library of research books & such which I draw inspiration from.
What do you enjoy the most about your job?
I am very proud to say that I am a full time, self-supporting Milliner. The best part of my job is being able to work at my own pace, at any hour, anywhere. I was never well suited to working for others. To paraphrase my idol P.T. Barnum – any line of work is wrong for me “unless it is of such a nature that my profits may be greatly enhanced by an increase of energy, perseverance, attention to business, tact, etc…”
Naturally, being your own boss comes at a price. For me – it is finding a balance between my business & personal life.Building a business is not for the faint of heart, for in the beginning you are not only the creator, but marketer, accountant & shipper, but I couldn’t see myself doing anything else…

Victorian Day Hat
I hear you take custom orders. Any unusual requests so far?
Actually no – I think since my background is in theatre – no request seams too unusual or too odd! [The fact that she doesn't consider a Snowman hattie the least bit weird is a sign of a true artist! -DD]
As a self-employed person, motivates you to get up in the morning? What inspires you?
My Customers. I get the most delightful feedback & photos from them. I am proud to say that half of my business is from return customers. It is a great motivator.
If you could custom-design a hattie for any contemporary celebrity, who would it be?
Cindy Lauper – hands down. She is a fashion icon & I adore her!
If you could meet any dead famous person, who would it be and what one question would you ask them?
P.T. Barnum – “Can I join your circus?”

Seafaring tricorn
Aside from outstanding quality, what surprised me the most about Topsy Turvy Design is the affordability. Movies pay hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars for accessories of comparable quality and detail – can you believe most of these hatties are priced in the $150-200 range?! Go and see for yourself if you don’t believe me!
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April 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I am really a fan of the art of milinery. I’ve always wanted to create my own hats, but the process and materials seem difficult and hard to come by.
These hats are fantastic! Thanks for sharing this interview, I love the when you do these!
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April 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
I’ve seen the Seafaring tricorn in Gothic Beauty magazine…it’s absolutly gorgeous!
Great interview Doe!
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April 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
We grew up in the same town!
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April 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Oh no, even more beautiful hats for me to drool at pictures of and wish I could afford! Um, I mean, great interview! I find millinery fascinating, and at some point in the future when I gather enough money I want to take a course in the subject, even just so that I can appreciate it some more.
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April 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
i LOVE the look of the little top hats.. but i live in a small town where everyone would look at me like ” what the heck is she wearing” what should i do about that? and where would i wear the hat at?
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April 6th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I’ve always adored Topsy Turvy Designs. As soon as I have the money saved up in the “fun” fund, I’m going to buy one of those sensational birdcage veils in black, the one with the big black bow <3 *sigh!* How glamorous.
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April 6th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I’m a theatrical wig maker, but I’ve worked with several awesome milliners over the years. I’ve wanted to dabble a bit in it myself and was recommended this awesome site as a great starting point.
for anyone else that might be interested in millinery:
http://www.how2hats.com/
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April 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Amazing!
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April 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Wow, those hatties are freaking adorable! And inspiring. I really want to start making my own stuff now. lol Looks like it would be fun, and I’ve got some creative stuff running through my head that wants to fly out through my fingers!
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April 6th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
you should check out kimberly tia :D she also make awesome hatties!
http://kawaiicraftsbytia.blogspot.com/2009/03/mad-hatter-lets-have-fabulous-tea-party.html
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April 6th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
these hats are so adorable!
Doe where the heck do you find all these awesome people/things!?!?
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April 6th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
oh wow, just amazing.
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April 6th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
very beautiful and interesting…
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April 6th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Fabulous interview, those pieces are amazing!
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April 6th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Those hats are so beautiful :)
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April 6th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
IIIIIIIII dooooooooo!!!!!!
Just WOW. I want one! I love all these amazing photos, and this is a great interview too. Very inspiring, as per usual, Doe!
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April 6th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Well, I’m in love… <3
I’ve bought a couple of mini hats from a local seller, and though they’re quite lovely, they are a shadow of what Miss Kim is capable of. O_O
Do you mind if I put a link to this post on the Livejournal EGL community? They would really love it, I’m sure!
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April 6th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Those are fantastic, I love hats and historical clothing
<3
Thanks for the interview
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April 6th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Thank you soooooo much Ms. Xenia for featuring my hatties in your FAB blog!
I am so thrilled to read the comments & see so many people interested in the lost art of millinery.
For all readers interested in learning the craft, I can not recommend enough the book “From the Neck Up.” It is a milliner’s bible.
If you are having a hard time finding the proper materials, visit http://www.judithm.com. They will have everything you need to get you started :)
Ms. Julia – Where in A-Town did you grow up?
Did you attend Alameda High or Encinal?
Cheers & Hatties!
Kim of TTD
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April 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Ha! Her Etsy shop has been one of my favorites for ages! :)
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April 6th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
I love those hats! *Lust* after them. My friend and I make miniature top hats and sell them, and we get so many compliments on them when we go places, including my church. We’ve had older women come up and ask where they can buy them. They’re so much fun!
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April 7th, 2009 at 5:59 am
oh my goodness, girl, I love hats. Although, one time I wore a fancy hat with a veil to Starbucks and this one old man approached me and told me he has a thing for women in hats- at first I thought nothing of it, but he constantly gives me his business card and asks me out every time I go to that branch…
He’s old enough to be my dad.
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April 7th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Oh, I fall in love. i really need one of theses hats.
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April 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
in swedish they call it “modist”, which means like in english, no one really knows what the word means. everyone thinks it’s someone who does something with fashion. which, in a way, is true.
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April 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am
The hats are exquisite!
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April 7th, 2009 at 10:56 am
This is off topic to this post; I have been a big fan of your tutorials for years, and Im in love with all your shadows.. Thanks to our wonderful economy I havent been able to buy any, so here my question… What are the best 3-5 shadows in your line that are unique to other shadow brands or your top favorites.. Im sure they are all amazing, but if I got all the ones I want it would be <$200.. Thank you Xenia, You rock!
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April 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I loved this! I think it’s so random. I’m actually going to school for Theatrical Costume Design right now. Our only millinery class was offered this semester and unfortunately I was not able to take it. But in my Costume Design class, we’re designing for Amadeus right now!
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April 7th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Ahh I adore those designs. I second the book she said about, it’s fantastic. I took a course in millinery and I’ve been training myself more and more, fingers crossed for a worl placement at Stephen Jones this summer. Thanks for posting this Doe, I’m currently struggling to create this hat for my current uni project. Inside completely beaded. Those photos have given me a boost!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/ThePinkHobbit/IMG_1708.jpg
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April 8th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I’ve had her in Etsy favourites for ages! There’s an artist with an Etsy shop called Matou En Peluche that has some lovely drawings featuring Topsy Turvy Hats. :)
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April 11th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Curious how it all began?
Click the below link :)
http://www.etsy.com/storque/handmade-life/hippie-handmade-weddings-circa-1972-baby-3742/
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April 11th, 2009 at 11:49 am
THIS IS SO INSPIRING! I always wanted to make my own hats, and since summer is comming, I may start making them! ^_^ Thank you for this, Topsy Turvy Designs was always an inspiration, and I didn’t know how to do it, I’m currently purchasing the book! THANK YOU!
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June 20th, 2009 at 6:44 am
GREAT! Now i want to be a Milliner!
yeah that’ll work I’ll just have four careers. *rolls Eyes* You’re a very bad example Doe with all your successful albeit often short lived, careers.
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November 7th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Your hats are beautiful I have been trying to find a millinery school in Sacramento or near no such luck I love hats I was raised around them my mother and grandmother and their friends wore them in church all the time I still wear them on Sunday morning I am putting on my hat also I just recently open A hat store some hats I make and some I order but I would love to go to millinery school I also will be ordering the book anyone who knows about A school near me please………….let me know
Ladybyrd
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